Removed Titles/Mounts

[Repentance]

VERY IMPORTANT! We have deleted all PvP titles / achievements / mounts / tabards from all players and removed them from vote / donation shop because we plan to improve the PvP rewarding system... as in give those rewards only for PvP events, top arena players, etc.
PvP horde/alliance titles (Warlord, General, Champion, etc) are now awarded automatically after reaching a specific number of honorable kills.
More info about this will be posted later tonight.

For those who bought pvp mounts / titles / tabards from the wow shop:
- The money used for buying PvP tabards was refunded to your account so you can spend it on anything else you want
- Titles and mounts bonuses were given to those who bought pvp titles or mounts so you can spend them on other titles / mounts you want. Check your bonuses page to see your bonuses (if you have any) (there may be few players who didn't receive bonuses for their deleted donated titles because they renamed/transfered their character, in this case make a ticket, but only for donated titles for which you didn't receive a bonus)

Your argument is as follows:
Premise 1: Low pvp population/activity
Premise 2: Pvp Titles/achievements generate incentives for pvp

Conclusion: Removing existent pvp titles will generate incentive for all the non-active top players.

Now pvp titles/mounts come as exclusivity for those who have done well in pvp. For that, I can understand, and appreciate, the removal of such achievements and titles for those who donated for them. For it seems that they have not "earned the prestige" that a gladiator/of the Alliance/Horde title should warrant.

The removal of titles from those who have earned it however, is a mistake entirely on your part. And a decision that should not be made without consulting the general player consensus. By hosting previous 3v3 tournaments and making the title a reward for those who have put the time in and gotten the rating, you have entered an unspoken agreement that these would not be removed. For if we had know that they would be removed in the future, what's the point in doing 3s now? What's to guarantee that you won't remove the titles again after we have gotten it back? There is no guarantee now that you have broken that unspoken promise. It'd be as if to stimualte pve, you remove all our pve gear to make us raid again. That argument is completely fallible and unsustainable.

The rational conclusion for the pvp players is this: We won't do any more arenas (3v3), as these rewards/titles can be removed. We will do BGs to get honorable kills for the associated titles.

If this is what you the management team wants, then go for it.

[Nevinafreaklol]

Yep, +1 Repentance. If you have removed it only from those who donated for it, it would be fine, but removing tittles/mounts/tabard from those who actualy pushed rating or played events is so unfair. Instead of stimulating ppl to play 3s i think you completely made most of them stop playing PVP and find another server where they wont lose their tittles bcuz of weird reasons.

[Mofuu]

They have proven time and time again that they are not capable of reviving the 3v3 bracket on Exodus. With every new move they do they just cause more and more rage from the barely existent pvpers. You are focusing your reward system on rewarding only the best, so thats a total of 12 people. You will never get an active PvP population with your measures Freakz, because obviously your actions are rash and not thought trough.

I for one will never step a foot in your 3v3 Arena ever again after this. As Repentance said whats the point if you will just remove them in the future.

You need to rethink the way you make decisions or you will never make the community happy. Till now all i have seen from you is decisions made in a rush, without discussion with the community, good ideas that never come to realization (new website, better promotion, english friendly forums ect.) and straight out lies about new content ( Warlord, PvE Event in February).

If you need help with management and advertising just say so...I for one would be happy to help out, if you could get over your egos to take advices from community members for once.

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[Zohlomg]

I've said it like a million times, those who won events will get PvP mounts/titles back.

I didn't even bother to read the previous replies, I know all PvPers can get out of their mouths is pure childish QQ.

[Mofuu]

You never bother to read anything, thats your problem.

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[Zohlomg]

Exactly.

I don't know why we even bother to make you PvP kids happy, whatever we do you won't be happy.

You said you want only PvPers to have PvP stuff, we did it. Now you, obviously, are unhappy. Mind = ***.

[Repentance]

If there was a need for you to say it a million times, clearly the message was not conveyed clear enough to the population, perhaps edit the front page.

Posturi unite automat, 27-03-2014, 19:17:51

If there was a need for you to say it a million times, then the message was not conveyed clear enough to the general population. Perhaps edit your front page?

[Zohlomg]

I'm just waiting a little hours more to make 140% sure we completely deleted EVERYTHING and we'll start awarding bonuses for those who did not get them, get the event winners rewards back & add the vendors.

[Mofuu]

You keep generalizing the whole community as kids, good on you. A few people complained about the PvP titles you do it, a dozen people complain about other stuff nothing happens. Your bad decisions are not our faults. How do you even see this Vendor and Title removing as a solution to the 3v3 bracket? Its just laughable...

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[Incarnate]

Well he did say it:

Quote:

5. We will (finally) delete and remove from donations all PvP Titles / Mounts / Tabards (anything I've forgot?) (OF COURS YOU WILL GET REFUNDED, and in case you got them from any event, you will have to make a ticket to receive "See number 7")

[Zohlomg]

Mofuu wrote:

You keep generalizing the whole community as kids, good on you. A few people complained about the PvP titles you do it, a dozen people complain about other stuff nothing happens. Your bad decisions are not our faults. How do you even see this Vendor and Title removing as a solution to the 3v3 bracket? Its just laughable...

I'd have to pay each of you 1k / Euro per game to get a semi-active queue at 3v3. There are tens of players complaining about queue ingame, but if all of you would actually starting queueing - OMG WOULD HAPPEND.

If it is a solution or not, at least real PvP guys will be happy in front of PvE guys.

[Mofuu]

Heres some ideas that were suggested before on the forums that sound logical, at least to me, that could actually get more activity:

1) Rating requirements on shoulder, chest, helm items as back in WotLK. If not on all Cata gear, then only on Elite - its just a different color of items with same stats after all, but would probably get more people to play.

2) Honor rewards from 3v3. A lot of people just gearing up would probably rather go to 3s then rbgs.

3) Limiting the amount of Conquest you can get from 2's to 50%, 75% or something and the rest being only obtainable from 3s.

Why not any of those over the vendor? They were never even discussed. Are explanations to reasonable questions to much to ask? I know theres a lot of shit topics going on on the forums every day and i can see them being frustrating for you, but wouldn't a constructive discussion with the active/productive/smart members of the community every once in a while help us both out? It could make the server better and the community bigger and happier...

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[Zohlomg]

Mofuu wrote:

1) Rating requirements on shoulder, chest, helm items as back in WotLK. If not on all Cata gear, then only on Elite - its just a different color of items with same stats after all, but would probably get more people to play.

You know this would imply deleting the actual items, right?

"OMG YOU TOOK MY TOYS I'M NEVER STEPPING INTO ARENA AGAIN".

However, 2) and 3) are cool. Especially 2.

[Mofuu]

Why would it imply deleting the actual items? So people earned them before, not everyone did though. Same as with the Titles now, you're not deleting them from the ones that got them before (only temporary).

And this is why i said Elite gear. It could be rating requirement for elite gear. It does not all have to be 2200. Start at 1700 for gloves for example, 1800 for pants ect. Even tho the original Cata gear would be better, would motivate people more imo.

About the taking of my toys, if your implying at me saying I'm never doing 3v3 on here again you got it all wrong, its a form of protest about bad decisions over and over again.

About 2) and 3), well, would you look at that...i actually suggested those ideas before...
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Suggestions-on-how-to-bring-3v3-to-life-t249644.html

Kinda proves my point dosn't it? Its cool now but almost a year ago it was not cool, and you guys picked the worst suggestion out of all i made in that topic.

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[Zohlomg]

Wall of texts like those are rarely read.