[FIXED] [Mage][General][Spell] Spellsteal

[rikymaru94]

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=30449 (wowhead link)
Bug description: It cannot spellsteal https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=16188 (wowhead link) and https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=132158 (wowhead link)
Proof:


""Îmi cunosc limitele. Dar pur ºi simplu le ignor."

[Shocker]

Proof you should be able to steal it? Both spells have this attribute :

Code:

Attributes   - Cannot be stolen

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[rikymaru94]

Nu am cum sa iti filmez de pe alt server cum ar trebuii sa mearga dar aici am gasit spellurile ce pot fi luate cu spellsteal:

Death Knight
Nothing to be dispelled by mages

Druid
In an ideal situation it is important that if you're planning to swap to a target that they don't have any lifeblooms up, as this makes it more difficult for the druid to heal the target quickly. Purging a target of hots prior to a swap (assuming they are on high health and you won't lose momentum from spending gcd's on spell steal) is an option, depending on the situation. Due to the amount of dispellable buffs the druid applies through healing you should assess the amount of buffs the target has before trying to remove a single buff to ensure you don't run out of mana
Important Buffs
Innovate
Nature's Swiftness
Other dispellable buffs
Mark of the Wild
Rejuvination / Regrowth (to prevent swiftmend heals)
Lifeblooms

Hunter
Important Buffs
Master’s Call

Mage
Important Buffs
Incanter’s Ward (and the respective Incanter’s Absorption)
Icy Veins
Alter Time
Presence of Mind
Ice Barrier (if your kill target is the mage)
Minor Buffs
Brain Freeze
Arcane Brilliance

Monk
Nothing much here to dispel for windwalker, you can dispel their ‘Combo Breaker’ buffs which give them a blackout kick / tiger palm with no chi cost but it isn’t really worth the global
Minor Buffs
Enveloping Mists (A monks strong hot, don’t personally prioritize dispelling it over damage. Lasts 6 seconds, situational to dispel)
Legacy of the White Tiger (5% increase crit)
Legacy of the Emperor (5% increase strength, agi and int

Paladin
Most of the paladin’s abilities are susceptible to dispels, a lot of them are important to dispel but you want to find a balance between dispels and dealing damage. Cooldown abilities should be prioritized but minor abilities can be ignored over damage
Important Buffs
Execution Sentence (strong hot when used to heal a partner)
Divine Plea (on holy paladins, can be ignored on rets)
Hand of Protection
Hand of Sacrifice
Hand of Freedom
Minor Buffs
Eternal Flame (minor hot)
Blessing of Might
Blessing of Kings
Speed of Light

Priests
Important Buffs
Power Infusion
Fear Ward (if your team has a fear available)
Minor Buffs
Power Word: Shield (dispel this from the kill target if you aren’t likely to be able to deal the absorption amount of damage in the same gcd usage)
Power Word: Fortitude
Shadow Priest – Divine Insight Procs

Rogue
Nothing to dispel

Shaman
Important Buffs
Elemental Mastery
Ancestral Swiftness
Elemental Blast
Spiritwalker’s Grace

Si am uitat sa mentionez ca nici spellsteal la Alter TIme(mage spell) nu merge.Poate confirma orice player care are o treaba cu jocul.


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[Shocker]

O dovada mai concreta, cel mai bine video de pe retail

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[Shodan]

So i went through blizzard's forums and saw a post about your "problem"

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6864606681

Quote:

Quote: Aren't there buffs in PvP they allow you to dispel but not steal? I use Spellsteal a lot in PvP and most of the time I don't get anything for it The only things I can think of are Alter Time, and it's obvious why that can't be stolen (shouldn't be dispellable in the first place, but that's another matter) and spiritwalker's grace. nature's swiftness/ancestral swiftness MIGHT just be dispelled, though the more I think about it the more I can't be sure. Of course bubble and ice block are technically on that list as well, but those are only dispellable through special means (shattering throw and mass dispel.) Everything else, unless I'm mistaken, can be stolen if it can be dispelled. EDIT: Tested it, spiritwalker's grace IS stolen, nature's swiftness and ancestral swiftness are just dispelled.

So . Rejected ?



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[Dreadblade]

https://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-3548569.html?#3548569

Poate ajuta.

L.E.: Spellsteal scoate toate 3 stack-urile de Lifebloom, ar trebui sa scoata numai unul.

[EnjoyTheFun]

http://wow.gamepedia.com/List_of_magic_effects

[Nature's Swiftness] can be stolen.
[Ancestral Swiftness] can be stolen. An instant [Healing Touch] (granted by [Symbiosis]) is the only benefit the mage will receive.

Hope this will help, too.

Edit: Wowhead clearly states that it was unstealable (Cannot be Spellstolen) and it still is.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140712020715/http://www.wowhead.com/spell=132158/natures-swiftness#comments
So I am confused

Edit 2: http://www.twitch.tv/xaryulol/c/4408450 Well it seems you can do it. I have just seen it on another stream, too. So wowhead is probably wrong.

[Crookers]

Dreadblade wrote:

https://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-3548569.html?#3548569 Poate ajuta. L.E.: Spellsteal scoate toate 3 stack-urile de Lifebloom, ar trebui sa scoata numai unul.

Acum ca poti sa muti lifebloom stacks dupa un target pe altu, nu ar trebuii si spellsteal sa fure toate stackurile? nu stiu sigur, intreb .. nu gasesc nimic in legatura cu asta

[rikymaru94]

Ar trebuii sa scoata cate un Lifebloom nu toate 3, dar un alt bug este faptul ca atunci cand dai spellsteal la toate cele 3 Lifebloom iar druidul le reaplica pe partener iti dispar si tie de pe tine.


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[MindBreaker]

Try and bring some video proofs from blizz, even from WoD, I don't think they changed something about this. Test Ancestral Swiftness, Natural's Swiftness and Lifebloom.


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[EnjoyTheFun]

There you go https://youtube.com/watch?v=cd_czCLE9Q8:

.be .
Just tested it on retail. It works as a dispel. You don't get any buff from it. Same happened before that video but the recorder fked up and it is really hard to find volunteers to test stuff on them
Also don't forget this one http://www.twitch.tv/xaryulol/c/4408450 from my prev post.
And yeah if you want I can test the thingy with lifebloom (translate me what should/shouldn't happen).

[MindBreaker]

Try spellsteal when a player has 3 stacks of Lifebloom to let us know if ss steals only one stack of Lifebloom or the entire lifebloom. Also have combat log opened.


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[EnjoyTheFun]

Did the NS spellsteal again - same thing(nothing on the combat log).
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B05vsW_bTrSNT1dhMDdoWW05OU0/view?usp=sharing
I uploaded them on Drive(works the same as YT) cause i think it is faster (maybe you will have to wait for a bit for the better quality to process).

About the Lifebloom - can't tell you much. Lifebloom currently has only 1 stack and using it again reapplies the first stack as you can see in the video below. Anyway as it states here http://wow.gamepedia.com/List_of_magic_effects and as you can see in the video it triggers the lifebloom mechanic on the druid as it is being dispelled. And after it expires on me it heals the druid again. (Sry forgot to open combat log)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B05vsW_bTrSNTkd4SVJNa2pHVlU/view?usp=sharing

About the Ancestral Swiftness it should work the same way as NS spellsteal. Can't find a shaman that easily. And i can't test

Quote:

An instant [Healing Touch] (granted by [Symbiosis]) is the only benefit the mage will receive.

because there is no Symbi on WoD anymore.

And sorry that i am posting it here but this post https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Mage-Frost-Spell-Frozen-Orb-vs-Polymorph-t357206.html is invalid. Tested it earlier today multiple times.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B05vsW_bTrSNSi16bHBsLWFGSUE/view?usp=sharing

Hope it helps and if you need something else let me know.

[MindBreaker]

Ok so Ancestral Swiftness and Nature's Swiftness should be dispelled, not stolen, with Spellsteal.
I will let the topic at pending in case someone find some MoP info on how Lifebloom should be stolen(stack by stack, or the whole effect at once).


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[EnjoyTheFun]

There you go
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lrmZ1Q-fIEs&t=15:


Steals only one stack.
The exact moment is like 15:26. (He has 2 stacks from his druid teammate but you can clearly see the one stack from the enemy got stolen into a new Lifebloom buff with only one stack)