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Post Posted: 16-05-2015, 19:09:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead quest link: http://www.wowhead.com/faction=1358/nat-pagle#comments
WoW Freakz quest link: Flying Tiger Gourami, Mimic Octopus, Spinefish Alpha
Bug description: These fish should have a bigger drop chance like 5-10% .
Proof: http://www.wowhead.com/faction=1358/nat-pagle#comments

"The funny fact is that on 5.2 will be easier to earn this Reputation...

But never the less I`m still farming up...i`m his pal !

As Blizzard Say:
...The reputation from each fish will be increased and the fishing rate will be increased as well...
So if you don`t have the time, wait for the patch 5.2, will be much easier... 600 rep each fish (Before bonus), and twice as often to catch

i Hope...

Farewell"

"i can confirm the droprate has been increased. Usually it would take me 1-2 hours to catch all of the 3 daily fishes, but today (the first time i've tried it since 5.2.0) it took me about 15 mins. So i think the droprate has been increased by more than twice."



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Post Posted: 16-05-2015, 21:53:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Drop rate is fine, 2% ... on MOP 5.4.8 the drop rate is even lower (example: https://www.wow-freakz.com/wowhead/548/?item=86544#fished-in ) ... wowhead is 6.x patch, rates were raised.


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Post Posted: 16-05-2015, 22:11:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Totusi ar fi o problema la questuri. Poti sa faci doar 1 / zi, desi in mod normal trebuie sa poti duce cate 1 din fiecare tip (3 daily).
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Post Posted: 16-05-2015, 22:17:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am remediat acum vreo 2 saptamani... poti face toate 3, toti 3 pestii / zi.

Posturi unite automat, 16-05-2015, 23:17:25

https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Reputation-Guide-The-Anglers-t357851.html



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Post Posted: 16-05-2015, 23:49:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://www.wowhead.com/faction=1358/nat-pagle#comments

On Wowhead comments:

"bosman88 on 2013/03/10 (Patch 5.2.0)
i can confirm the droprate has been increased. Usually it would take me 1-2 hours to catch all of the 3 daily fishes, but today (the first time i've tried it since 5.2.0) it took me about 15 mins. So i think the droprate has been increased by more than twice."

Well on our server i stayed ~1 hour for 1 fish.
Just search on wowhead comments those phrases and you will see the drop rate was definitely increase from 2% in 5.2 patch.
And i think the drop rate should be bigger.

L.E.: Live update, fishing for 20 min not a single trace of that fish.
Fishing in Tiger Gourami School for Flying Tiger Gourami and i only caught Tiger Gourami, 4x Sealed Crate and a very lucky drop of Sea Turtle.

L.E.2: Another 20 min, no fish. Results from fishing 3x Sealed Crate again, 1x Tiny White Carp (companion) and another lucky drop? Sea Turtle.
Total 40 min no Anglers quest fish. Frustration overwhelms me because of 2x Sea Turtle in 40 min and i give up.
10% drop rate la Sealed Crate seems to be fine.
Just give it a try by yourself and "watch the pain".



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Post Posted: 17-05-2015, 01:53:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

5 to 10% no way... that's plain silly... just that 2-3 players comment that they have high drop rate, just because they got lucky, that doesn't mean we have to implement what they say...

Most comments and wowhead rates say before 5.2 patch they had about 1% chance to drop, and afterwards the chances doubled ("they drop twice as easily")... wowhead 5.4.8 rates are of about 1.8-2% ... we have 2% in all waters for each... seems about right.

You are the only player complaining so far... I require actual drop rates, not comments. 2% for 3 daily fishing quests seems ok, plus the 100% for one out of 3 from Krakannon makes it an awesome drop rate (compared to retail).

1 hour for 1 fish... depends on your luck... some get one in 5 minutes, others in 1 hour... or more... fishing is always about luck...

As I said, need more real data... numbers... but 5 to 10 % that's just silly.

l.e.: one website tells me 3% drop chance , in Isle of Thunder... which is 5.2 patch... so maybe that's the one... rest is 2% or less (as I said, each of those 3 fishes have certain areas/zones in which they drop, but on Freakz they can be fished anywhere in Pandaria, which is a plus for players).



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Post Posted: 19-05-2015, 16:21:34 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quote:
"hanj82[S] 1 point 11 months ago
Thanks, the guide was really helpful. Managed to catch all three fish in 25 minutes!"

Quote:
"Vagar 1 point 11 months ago
Is there a fishing skill requirement to catch these things? Mine is at about 200 right now.
No, but the chance increases drastically with higher skill level. At 200, you'll have to plan at least 10-15 minutes per fish, assuming you fish from pools. Without pools, roughly 10 times that.
Even at 600, it takes 5 to 10 mins in open water."


https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/26ij12/nat_pagle_fish/

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"Todays farm for the 3 rep fish:
All casts made with 715 fishing (600+115)

138 casts in inkgill mere (Summit) for Spinefish Alpha

43 casts in cattail lake (Vo4w) for Flying Tiger Gourami (Near where the rare lure spawns)

76 casts in Anglers Warf (Karasang) for Mimic Octopus

I've fished in all 3 locations every reset and haven't had more then 200 casts per fish."


http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6794229505

Quote:
"My estimate from experience is that the time for a quest fish to be hooked is about 20-25 mins per fish.

i'll spare you the math. So for a daily a bit to much time.
On the other hand Nat Pagle is extraordinary and worth the extra attention/love/dedication
Nat is the Chuck Norris of fishing.. -"

Quote:
"They're a lot higher than 1%

Someone who already has one in his bags can't loot another, lowers droprate a little
more importantly everyone who fishes in the zone who doesn't fish in the right type of water is going to lower the droprate."


http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5847927981

Quote:
"Good grief no it's fine. It's nothing like a vanilla rep grind at all 3 fish a day that take a max of 20 minutes to get, repeated for 4 weeks. Oh the horror.

What else are you going to do with your time?"


http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/11040554524


AlesianDuke wrote:
...(as I said, each of those 3 fishes have certain areas/zones in which they drop, but on Freakz they can be fished anywhere in Pandaria, which is a plus for players).


Say what?
https://www.wow-freakz.com/item_finder.php?item=86542&&name=flying-tiger-gouramil
https://www.wow-freakz.com/item_finder.php?item=86545&&name=mimic-octopus
https://www.wow-freakz.com/item_finder.php?item=86544&&name=spinefish-alpha

Certainly not drop in all whaters in pandaria like this items:
https://www.wow-freakz.com/item_finder.php?item=46109&&name=sea-turtle
https://www.wow-freakz.com/item_finder.php?item=79046&&name=sugar-minnow

Fish from quests drops just in fishing pools, but they drop in any whater in pandaria ("Vagar ... Even at 600, it takes 5 to 10 mins in open water.")

And the 2% fishing is not like killing mobs.
For fishing somehow this is the formula:
Seconds/Casts
For exemple:
30 min = 60*30 = 1800 seconds
1800/100 = 18 seconds
18 seconds per cast.

Well, this formula is not always the same time. When you kill stack of 4-6 mobs this means somehow you incrase the chance drop but in fishing no way!

Why i'm complaining? Because i have not seen anyone who bother to do this quests from fishing even on blizzard was a lot of them.
And Krakkanon beeing farm at respawn time. In some time he will be farmed with large groups, guilds/friends and they will not invite you for loot.
Krakkanon? it have a 6 hours respawn, 4 fish per day but we eat, sleep, others stuff to do, in conclusion some of us will miss the respawn time.

With these documentations i think it's a 30 min farming per each fish compared with my data on the server with 1h(sometimes more) per fish and i tryed this 3 times already, that means a maximum 4-5% drop chance.



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Post Posted: 19-05-2015, 18:38:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Krakkanon spawned in Krasarang & Kun-Lai Summit locations too.

Drop rate for all 3 daily quests fish raised to 3% (final decision).

l.e: live at the next server restart



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