[REJECTED] [Warrior][Talent][Spell] Bladestorm

[divinity4uuu]

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=46924&&name=bladestorm
Bug description: Bladestorm trebuie sa aiba o fereastra de 0.5 secunde in care poate sa iasa din orice cc de gen stun,disarm,blind ,sap dar aici nu merge
Proof:

8:45 https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ff5339aznqw:


21:42 https://youtube.com/watch?v=snn_tGE_G4g:



4:35 https://youtube.com/watch?v=Sjeogpkr-qY&t=274:

[mckennyx]

++++++++++++++++++++ HUGE +

[MindBreaker]

RO: Am nevoie de o lista cu fiecare CC spell care ar putea fi negat in acea fereastra de 0.5-1 sec. Desigur cu blizz proof pentru fiecare... am vazut ca unele CC-uri nu merg gen cyclone.

EN: I need a list with every CC spell that can be negated in that small window... of course with proof from blizz for each one... I seen that some CCs cannot be negated like cyclone but I need to know for sure before confirming the bug.

Note: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Warrior-All-Specs-Talent-Bladestorm-t362222.html


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[1007]

MindBreaker wrote:

RO: Am nevoie de o lista cu fiecare CC spell care ar putea fi negat in acea fereastra de 0.5-1 sec. Desigur cu blizz proof pentru fiecare... am vazut ca unele CC-uri nu merg gen cyclone. EN: I need a list with every CC spell that can be negated in that small window... of course with proof from blizz for each one... I seen that some CCs cannot be negated like cyclone but I need to know for sure before confirming the bug. Note: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Warrior-All-Specs-Talent-Bladestorm-t362222.html

Nu inteleg ce lista vrei, e vorba de orice stun si disorient effects. (pentru Poly/Hex nu am gasit video proof)

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10717931916?page=2

Vrei lista cu toate disorient si stun spells?

A closer look on how it should be: 0:08 https://youtube.com/watch?v=_JvLZIuF2Nk:

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[divinity4uuu]

MindBreaker wrote:

RO: Am nevoie de o lista cu fiecare CC spell care ar putea fi negat in acea fereastra de 0.5-1 sec. Desigur cu blizz proof pentru fiecare... am vazut ca unele CC-uri nu merg gen cyclone. EN: I need a list with every CC spell that can be negated in that small window... of course with proof from blizz for each one... I seen that some CCs cannot be negated like cyclone but I need to know for sure before confirming the bug. Note: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Warrior-All-Specs-Talent-Bladestorm-t362222.html

Da,bs nu ar trebui sa scoata cyclone pentru ca cc-urile se impart in mai multe categorii :

Roots
Stuns
Mesmerizes
Fears and Horrors
Silences
Disarms
Knockbacks
Other Effects

iar cyclone face parte din ultima...bladestormul trebuie sa te scoata din cc-urile de gen : roots,stuns,mesmerizes(nu sunt in totalitate sigur) dar vor mai face research,disarm si cam atat


aici este o lista cu toate categoriile de cc si spelurile care intre in fiecare categorie : http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10195910192?page=1#8

[odes]

And you all just basically missed the point where its stated this was a latency issue (a bug) on retail servers? On multiple posts?

The bladestorm spell does not have a 0.5-1 second cc breaking ability, you wanna create mechanics out of thin air? I thought it was explained pretty well why bladestorm was removing CC, the only reason you could do this was because of that small window of time that it took the server-client communication to validate you are affected by X cc. Here on freakz we dont have this small delay when server-client communication happens....sooo yeah.

Blizzard can be buggy, i made soulshards on my priest on retail in wrath of the lich king by doing a shield on a warlock at the exact time he cast drain soul on a training dummy, that doesnt mean its supposed to work like that ._.


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Edit: Just in case some smart *** decides to ask me why blizzard never fixed it if it was a bug, the answer is simple: In order to fix that they would have had to rewrite how buffs and debuffs are handled by the server/core.

Thats why ignite munching on retail (which was caused by the same delay between server-client communication that lets warriors break cc with bladestorm) was never fixed for basically 3 expansions rofl and they just had to make workarounds by changing how other spells that triggered ignite worked and ultimately redesigned ignite completely in MoP.

[totala]

odes wrote:

And you all just basically missed the point where its stated this was a latency issue (a bug) on retail servers? On multiple posts? The bladestorm spell does not have a 0.5-1 second cc breaking ability, you wanna create mechanics out of thin air? I thought it was explained pretty well why bladestorm was removing CC, the only reason you could do this was because of that small window of time that it took the server-client communication to validate you are affected by X cc. Here on freakz we dont have this small delay when server-client communication happens....sooo yeah. Blizzard can be buggy, i made soulshards on my priest on retail in wrath of the lich king by doing a shield on a warlock at the exact time he cast drain soul on a training dummy, that doesnt mean its supposed to work like that ._. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edit: Just in case some smart *** decides to ask me why blizzard never fixed it if it was a bug, the answer is simple: In order to fix that they would have had to rewrite how buffs and debuffs are handled by the server/core. Thats why ignite munching on retail (which was caused by the same delay between server-client communication that lets warriors break cc with bladestorm) was never fixed for basically 3 expansions rofl and they just had to make workarounds by changing how other spells that triggered ignite worked and ultimately redesigned ignite completely in MoP.

Ti-ai pus fata de masa de la picnic in cap fixata cu banda de transmisie ca sa ce?!.......si ochelari
Deci daca bladestorm e activ nu intra cc (niciun fel de cc); daca ai cc si activezi bladestorm ar trebui sa-l scoata (slow/root/disarm)...da nu.
Unii mai joaca magarusu' cu bladestorm...de la death grip la thunderstorm.

[divinity4uuu]

odes wrote:

And you all just basically missed the point where its stated this was a latency issue (a bug) on retail servers? On multiple posts? The bladestorm spell does not have a 0.5-1 second cc breaking ability, you wanna create mechanics out of thin air? I thought it was explained pretty well why bladestorm was removing CC, the only reason you could do this was because of that small window of time that it took the server-client communication to validate you are affected by X cc. Here on freakz we dont have this small delay when server-client communication happens....sooo yeah. Blizzard can be buggy, i made soulshards on my priest on retail in wrath of the lich king by doing a shield on a warlock at the exact time he cast drain soul on a training dummy, that doesnt mean its supposed to work like that ._. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edit: Just in case some smart *** decides to ask me why blizzard never fixed it if it was a bug, the answer is simple: In order to fix that they would have had to rewrite how buffs and debuffs are handled by the server/core. Thats why ignite munching on retail (which was caused by the same delay between server-client communication that lets warriors break cc with bladestorm) was never fixed for basically 3 expansions rofl and they just had to make workarounds by changing how other spells that triggered ignite worked and ultimately redesigned ignite completely in MoP.

il puteti bana va rog eu frumos ?[/quote]

Normal ca pe forumuri gasesti discutii de la jucatori random , asa cum esti si tu , dar mai sus ai dovezi de la top streamers si top pvp players (3k rate ) care afirma acest lucru si pe langa asta nu este delay deloc pe retail , ar fi bine sa mergi sa incerci asta , inainte sa vii cu asa povesti, SCRUB

[yodanny]

sunteti niste penibili.. e de la LATENCY si ce a zis baiatu cu stergura in cap, e adevarat. daca nu scrie in skill la tooltip ca scoate orice cc daca il dai intr-o fereastra de 0.5 sec atunci nu face chestia aia.


uitati si un post de anul trecut, https://forum.wow-freakz.com/REJECTED-Warrior-PvP-Bladestorm-CC-negating-effect-t277068.html care a fost rejected pentru ca e o prostie.


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[divinity4uuu]

yodanny wrote:

sunteti niste penibili.. e de la LATENCY si ce a zis baiatu cu stergura in cap, e adevarat. daca nu scrie in skill la tooltip ca scoate orice cc daca il dai intr-o fereastra de 0.5 sec atunci nu face chestia aia. uitati si un post de anul trecut, https://forum.wow-freakz.com/REJECTED-Warrior-PvP-Bladestorm-CC-negating-effect-t277068.html care a fost rejected pentru ca e o prostie.

Frate sunteti playeri care nu aveti main warriorul , da plecati frate de la sectiunea asta si cititi la clasele voastre , eu nu vin sa las comentarii la ce jucati voi daca nu ma pricep la ele . Acesta este un bug la warrior si end of story . Ai mai sus toate dovezile.

[yodanny]

cum poti sa fi asa de incuiat sa zici ca e bug la warrior. postez unde vreau pentru ca nu sunt one trick pony ca si tine sa joc doar o clasa. arata-mi tu un mechanic din jocul asta care e intended si nu e mentionat in tooltip. Ai sa imi aduci dovada un blue post de pe forum in care confirma un developer ca e intended? sau ca scrie in description si in tooltip la linkul de la BS de pe wowhead ca trebuie sa faca asa ceva? e de la LATENCY. e acelasi lucru ca si cand war da charge si in acelasi timp eu dau Shadowstep. daca iti iese bine daca nu, nu. pentru ca nu poti sa repari LAG-ul. doar daca ne mutam toti in aceiasi camera cu serverul.


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[1007]

Nu e de la latency, daca va uitati in link-ul care l-am pus se vede ca merge o discutie intre playeri, unii zic ca e de la latency altii ca ar fi intended etc , cu toate astea a mers acest trick pe toata durata expansion-ului si nu a aparut nici un Blue post pe acolo sa le zica ca ar fi bug/latency whatsoever.

[yodanny]

si atunci cu ce vrei sa confirmi ca e intended, si ca asa ar trebui sa mearga. fara o confirmare, pur si simplu ati gasit un bug/exploit pe oficial care vreti sa fie implementat si aici.


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yodanny wrote:

si atunci cu ce vrei sa confirmi ca e intended, si ca asa ar trebui sa mearga. fara o confirmare, pur si simplu ati gasit un bug/exploit pe oficial care vreti sa fie implementat si aici.

Ba omule, ce confirmation vrei tu nu inteleg? Sunt puse videos cu proof de pe Blizz, asa a mers mecanica la BS pe blizz deci este intended.

[divinity4uuu]

yodanny wrote:

cum poti sa fi asa de incuiat sa zici ca e bug la warrior. postez unde vreau pentru ca nu sunt one trick pony ca si tine sa joc doar o clasa. arata-mi tu un mechanic din jocul asta care e intended si nu e mentionat in tooltip. Ai sa imi aduci dovada un blue post de pe forum in care confirma un developer ca e intended? sau ca scrie in description si in tooltip la linkul de la BS de pe wowhead ca trebuie sa faca asa ceva? e de la LATENCY. e acelasi lucru ca si cand war da charge si in acelasi timp eu dau Shadowstep. daca iti iese bine daca nu, nu. pentru ca nu poti sa repari LAG-ul. doar daca ne mutam toti in aceiasi camera cu serverul.

Intocmai , joc doar o clasa si o stiu la perfectiune , nu am sa iti mai raspund la mesaje pentru ca nu are rost , ai mai sus dovezile , nu exista latency in svr de la blizzard , iar daca totusi ar fi un bug sau exploit sau ceva , chiar crezi ca nu ar fi luat o masura ? mai ales ca ar fi fost foarte simpla ? Si pe freakz este latency , dar tind sa cred ca tu nu stii cum functioneaza . Cand ai latency ai automat un mic delay , dar tu il percepi vizual , el se intampla in joc , de exemplu daca tu esti langa un moob si ai latency mare , tu degeaba apesi spelul ca il da peste cateva secunde dar intre timp tu ai primit x lovituri cate trebuia sa primesti de la moob in timpu ala . Asa e si cu bladestormu , sa presupunem ca ai luat stun , tu nu o sa vezi asta vizual, dar in joc o sa vezi doar dupa un timp,dar se intampla si degeaba apesi bladestorm ca practic il vei apasa dupa ce ai luat stunul cu mult timp dupa




Deci cand va aud cu latency pe blizz efectiv mor , dar mergeti jucati sa vedeti cum e defapt. Chiar credeti ca cea mai mare companie are probleme dinastea ? Tu nu poti sa percepi ce servere au ei , daca ar fi delay tot serverul ar avea si ar mai fi o gramada de chestii asemanatoare si nu ar mai juca asa multi playeri..... dar nu sunt , asa este bladestormul , obisnuiti-va cu ideea.

iar din punct de vedere al scriptului de la bladestorm se poate rezolva foarte usor cu un if else statement

if latency < 10 va avea loc bladestorm
else
if latency > 10 nu va avea loc bladestorm

chiar crezi ca nu ar putea sa faca asta ? Nu mai veniti cu pretexte de lag si mai repet odata , mergeti la topicul cu , clasa voastra