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Post Posted: 12-08-2015, 19:37:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

First of all thanks for the replies , but well you kinda missed the point guys , let me try to give a clearer example for example on retail when i do 25 Mans i average around 100+ fps in ultra , while on freakz it even goes down to 20-30 in High , i beleive the problem is from the GPU load to be honest or some freakz thing really not sure.


Anyways im running a Intel Core i5-4690K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 3.5 GHz boosted to 3.9 or so.



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Post Posted: 12-08-2015, 20:06:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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First of all thanks for the replies , but well you kinda missed the point guys , let me try to give a clearer example for example on retail when i do 25 Mans i average around 100+ fps in ultra , while on freakz it even goes down to 20-30 in High , i beleive the problem is from the GPU load to be honest or some freakz thing really not sure.


Anyways im running a Intel Core i5-4690K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 3.5 GHz boosted to 3.9 or so.


So, I can't pinpoint your problem but i can give you a quick analysis.
The low gpu load you are getting is absolutely normal in WoW since it has a CPU bottleneck rather than a GPU one like most games. I can think of 2 things, either you have a bad connectivity to freakz (try running a "ping -t mop.freakz.ro" for an hour or so and check the general ping) OR, being summer and all, your stuff might be overheating and throttling the speed. I'd say it's worth checking out.
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Been like this even in winter ,but i still think if im under 60fps gpu should force it self abit more , however i wonder how could my ping affect my FPS ingame , could you explain how exactly that works


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Post Posted: 12-08-2015, 20:13:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Orga wrote:
First of all thanks for the replies , but well you kinda missed the point guys , let me try to give a clearer example for example on retail when i do 25 Mans i average around 100+ fps in ultra , while on freakz it even goes down to 20-30 in High , i beleive the problem is from the GPU load to be honest or some freakz thing really not sure.


Anyways im running a Intel Core i5-4690K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 3.5 GHz boosted to 3.9 or so.


So, I can't pinpoint your problem but i can give you a quick analysis.
The low gpu load you are getting is absolutely normal in WoW since it has a CPU bottleneck rather than a GPU one like most games. I can think of 2 things, either you have a bad connectivity to freakz (try running a "ping -t mop.freakz.ro" for an hour or so and check the general ping) OR, being summer and all, your stuff might be overheating and throttling the speed. I'd say it's worth checking out.
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Post Posted: 12-08-2015, 20:16:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Orga wrote:
Been like this even in winter ,but i still think if im under 60fps gpu should force it self abit more , however i wonder how could my ping affect my FPS ingame , could you explain how exactly that works


His entire post is an insult to your configuration, don't mind him. The problem is freakz-sided, it has something to do with the raid frames sucking really bad, or at least that was the problem during Cataclysm. Massive fps drops @ 25 men raids compared to blizzard. And they couldn't or it was too hard to fix it completely.



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Post Posted: 12-08-2015, 20:27:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Orga wrote:
Been like this even in winter ,but i still think if im under 60fps gpu should force it self abit more , however i wonder how could my ping affect my FPS ingame , could you explain how exactly that works


Delay on retrieving data from server OR packet loss can cause stuttering/frame drops since you are getting desynchronized. If you ever tried HotS (also from Blizzard) on a bad connectivity you would see what severe frame drops it can cause.
Your gpu can't force itself any more since there is basically nothing more it can do for the game. It's like asking a baker to cook the food longer because the food gets cold by the time the delivery guy brings it.
I forgot to ask if this is happening now, if you are playing now on both blizz and freakz and getting this performance difference.

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Yes i do play play on both and still have the problem on freakz only , both your response and Bomarley make abit of sense , i only have fps problems on 25 man on freakz so his frame theory might be right , your theory is also correct because i do have some short frame spikes due to my latency on heroes of the storm.


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Aceiasi problema am si eu..numai ca mie imi sta numai intre 40-50, si la ce configuratie am, zic eu ca ar trebui sa ma tina mai mult..nu mai vb de elegon unde ma tine in 15 fps cu low tot.

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Post Posted: 12-08-2015, 22:23:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Toti desteptii care habar n-au de ce arhitectura invechita au cei de la AMD comenetaza aiurea dar in fine.

@Orga, what frequency does your i7 reach (non turbo-boost one)? I'm running a 4 years old laptop sandy bridge i7 at 2.2 GHz defaults and can hold stable 40-50 fps in 25 man raids.


Asta e singurul tau argument?arhitectura invechita? Iti dau eu argumente daca vrei:da,intelul e net superior pe partea de render de exemplu,dar ca o comparatie intre fx 8350 cu i7-le ala e o diferenta de performanta undeva la maxim 15% in gaming(chiar si mai putin),pentru aproape de 2 ori mai multi bani.Diferenta aia care ti-o imaginezi tu se vede in renders,benchmarks care forteaza CPU-ul si alte nebunii de genul asta.Dar concret,in gaming,e o diferenta nesemnificativa.Daca nu ai avut ambele procesoare sa le compari,abtine-te de la comentarii inutile(cum e si ala cu latency-ul care afecteaza fps-ul in wow) pentru ca nu faci altceva decat sa induci in eroare.Problema e legata de emulator,nu de configuratiile pc-urilor.
P.S. : Am i5 pe laptop si ghici ce,tot mai bine merge pe relicva mea de Phenom II de pe pc.

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totusi e mult mai bine ca pe cata unde luai freeze-uri si fps drop la greu in ds, pe serverele private nu merg fps-urile ca pe blizz din cauza texturii prost scriptate.
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Ok so from what i understand no real way to fix it since its server sided and possibly abit more affected than everyone else probabloy because of my latency , thanks for the answears guys.


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Toti desteptii care habar n-au de ce arhitectura invechita au cei de la AMD comenetaza aiurea dar in fine.

@Orga, what frequency does your i7 reach (non turbo-boost one)? I'm running a 4 years old laptop sandy bridge i7 at 2.2 GHz defaults and can hold stable 40-50 fps in 25 man raids.


Asta e singurul tau argument?arhitectura invechita? Iti dau eu argumente daca vrei:da,intelul e net superior pe partea de render de exemplu,dar ca o comparatie intre fx 8350 cu i7-le ala e o diferenta de performanta undeva la maxim 15% in gaming(chiar si mai putin),pentru aproape de 2 ori mai multi bani.Diferenta aia care ti-o imaginezi tu se vede in renders,benchmarks care forteaza CPU-ul si alte nebunii de genul asta.Dar concret,in gaming,e o diferenta nesemnificativa.Daca nu ai avut ambele procesoare sa le compari,abtine-te de la comentarii inutile(cum e si ala cu latency-ul care afecteaza fps-ul in wow) pentru ca nu faci altceva decat sa induci in eroare.Problema e legata de emulator,nu de configuratiile pc-urilor.
P.S. : Am i5 pe laptop si ghici ce,tot mai bine merge pe relicva mea de Phenom II de pe pc.


Eu ma duc la munca acum dar te rog frumos sa cauti benchmark-uri pentru acel procesor AMD in MMO-uri daca e posibil sau Starcraft 2 deoarece sunt printre cele mai CPU intensive. Din cate stiu eu, fx8350 abia depaseste un i3 pentru gaming (subliniat gaming) deoarece au single core performance slabut. Procesoarele amd sunt in general mai bune pentru encoding / rendering (nu jocuri) datorita nr de nuclee. Te rog gaseste benchmark-uri si vedem impreuna.

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^Vezi ca te-ai fript la faza cu benchmarks/testing. Mi-au scapat putine procesoare de pe piata din testarea personala, atat OC cat si benchmarks. Nu stiu cum reusesti sa faci comparatiile alea atat de idioate.

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^Vezi ca te-ai fript la faza cu benchmarks/testing. Mi-au scapat putine procesoare de pe piata din testarea personala, atat OC cat si benchmarks. Nu stiu cum reusesti sa faci comparatiile alea atat de idioate.

Este foarte simplu stimabile,ptr programe iti cauti una doua zece 100 de mii de charts existente pe internet unde vezi,ptr gaming iti cauti frumos pe youtube comparisonuri cu FPS countere la 1,2,3,25 de jocuri.Te uiti la un video,nu esti convins,mai cauti unul si inca 5 pana reusesti sa iti faci o idee.Pentru ca la gaming asta conteaza,sa vezi concret in joc cat ai,nu cat citesti de pe niste tabele.Bineinteles,va fi diferit de la joc la joc,dar poti stabili o medie si sa stai sa te gandesti daca intr-adevar merita sa platesti dublul pretului ptr concluzia la care ajungi.Din nou,repet cum am zis mai sus,intelul este mai bun,dar nu atat de bun cat sa ajungi sa zici ca un fx nu face fata la WOW si e invechit.
P.S : Ce am mentionat cu procentajele,este pur orientativ.La un joc poate fi o diferenta de 10%,la altul de 1%,la altul de 25%,depinde pana la urma de joc.Era doar ptr stabilirea unor concluzii si a unei medii realiste.

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Era putin deplasata concluzia. Totul e in functie de cel mai bun intr-un anumit buget.

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