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Post Posted: 26-08-2015, 12:41:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

confirm ce zici ce icioni si eu am testat ieri cu prist warlock warrior dk druid etc si reduce dmg daca tu nu sti sa te opresti sa dai dmg cand ai karma pe tine nu mai venii aici sa te plangi !
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Post Posted: 26-08-2015, 13:05:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Am facut test cu un shadow priest si in dispersion dmg-ul reflectat de karma este redus. Daca tu dai ca un noob full burst in karma e normal sa nu te mai salveze https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=871&&name=shield-wall, mai bine ar umbla la bleedurile tale , poate atunci nu o sa te mai lamentezi de karma
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confirm ce zici ce icioni si eu am testat ieri cu prist warlock warrior dk druid etc si reduce dmg daca tu nu sti sa te opresti sa dai dmg cand ai karma pe tine nu mai venii aici sa te plangi !
Voi ori sunteti prosti rau, ori sunteti niste trolls care isi apara clasa... pana acuma dovezi a adus doar Ironwill.

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Post Posted: 26-08-2015, 13:20:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

icioni wrote:
Daca tu dai ca un noob full burst in karma e normal sa nu te mai salveze https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=871&&name=shield-wall, mai bine ar umbla la bleedurile tale , poate atunci nu o sa te mai lamentezi de karma
Ba tu esti idiot? unde in natia ta vezi tu burst sau bleeds in prints care am pus? Casca ochii in combat log.

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confirm ce zici ce icioni si eu am testat ieri cu prist warlock warrior dk druid etc si reduce dmg daca tu nu sti sa te opresti sa dai dmg cand ai karma pe tine nu mai venii aici sa te plangi !
Ai testat tu pe dracu, esti atat de "nab" ca nici sa testezi nu stii cum, ai dat dovada in game.

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Post Posted: 26-08-2015, 23:12:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

IronWill eu zic s-o lasi mai moale cu jignirile , iar tu moldovene nu inteleg ce rol ai . Karma functioneaza cum trebuie !!

Dovada : Karma Vs Dispersion http://i.imgur.com/hF2HtYU.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/jItRPua.jpg

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Post Posted: 26-08-2015, 23:39:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Eu am frumos si nu te-am jignit... Eu doar iti zic ca merge bine karma si tu doar ai fite de copii mici...

Uite aici dovada la dk ca merge bine karma si la ams si la blood presence si la unholy presence

AMS : http://i.imgur.com/dVmjOf6.jpg 3335 dmg si cand da ams e doar 839

Unholy presence 5566 dmg http://i.imgur.com/6vWBHjo.jpg

Blood presence 3796 dmg http://i.imgur.com/oTvFWJh.jpg

toate testate cu 1 mele hit si da functioneaza si la warrior la fel functioneaza asa ca nu mai vb prostii...

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Post Posted: 27-08-2015, 00:29:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tot mancati rahat incontinuu.

Nici unul nu ati adus dovezi ca merge bine vs Shield wall si Defensive stance... iar ala de mai sus nu stie sa testeze, am Retestat sa ma conving.

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Post Posted: 27-08-2015, 00:56:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Moldovene nu inteleg cum te suporta pamantul..Ca si bug description IronWill a postat ca Touch of Karma trebuie sa ignore Resilience-ul dar nu si dmg reduction buffs. Noi am adus dovezi ca https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=122470&&name=touch-of-karma functioneaza bine si ca dmg-ul redirectiont e redus odata cu folosirea unui cooldown defensiv. Probabil sunt probleme doar vs warr cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=71&&name=defensive-stance si cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=871&&name=shield-wall
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icioni wrote:
Moldovene nu inteleg cum te suporta pamantul..Ca si bug description IronWill a postat ca Touch of Karma trebuie sa ignore Resilience-ul dar nu si dmg reduction buffs. Noi am adus dovezi ca https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=122470&&name=touch-of-karma functioneaza bine si ca dmg-ul redirectiont e redus odata cu folosirea unui cooldown defensiv. Probabil sunt probleme doar vs warr cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=71&&name=defensive-stance si cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=871&&name=shield-wall
Ba gunoiule, nu stiu cum te suporta mata, chiar ma enervezi....
Personal am testat acuma cu un DK si la fel ToK ignora Blood pressence, ce a testat acolo ascendancy e o vrajeala, sau a primit un hit mai mic in al2-lea screenshot, in combat log nu se vede ce dmg a luat de la DK.
Sa zicem ca vs Dispersion merge dar nu si vs celelalte.

Rog un GM capabil sa testeze Blood presence/Defensive stance/Shieldwall vs Touch of Karma(desi in primul post se vede totul CLAR), si sa dea confirm/reject la acest topic.ty.

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Post Posted: 27-08-2015, 01:56:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

merge nu e nici o vrajeala vorbesti doar sa te afli in treaba gata am incheiat ca cu voi nu funtioneaza buna vorba
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Post Posted: 31-08-2015, 15:28:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@ Shocker vad ca la Atributes in ToK este adaugat "- Ignore damage percent mods", sa fie de la asta?
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Post Posted: 31-08-2015, 16:47:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Momentan touch of karma ignora TOT ! Da FIX ACELASI DAMAGE ca damage-ul primit pentru ca asa s-a zis in bug reportul initial: "damage-ul trebuie SA FIE IDENTIC". Singurul lucru care va ramane voua de facut (in loc sa va certati ca ratatii) e sa cautati dovezi de pe blizz daca ar trebui sau nu sa ignore tot sau ar trebui sa tina cont de ceva (resilience, defense auras, defense stats, etc)

PS: Nu testati cu Dispersion, are mecanica diferita spellul asta (chiar daca pare ca face acelasi lucru ca restul)


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Momentan touch of karma ignora TOT ! Da FIX ACELASI DAMAGE ca damage-ul primit pentru ca asa s-a zis in bug reportul initial: "damage-ul trebuie SA FIE IDENTIC". Singurul lucru care va ramane voua de facut (in loc sa va certati ca ratatii) e sa cautati dovezi de pe blizz daca ar trebui sau nu sa ignore tot sau ar trebui sa tina cont de ceva (resilience, defense auras, defense stats, etc)

PS: Nu testati cu Dispersion, are mecanica diferita spellul asta (chiar daca pare ca face acelasi lucru ca restul)
Nu avem dovezi 100% concrete pentru ca nu se vorbeste nicaieri ca trebuie sa ignore tot(in afara de resil). Tot ce am putut sa-ti gasesc este asta:
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I have never in my time of playing a monk seen an enemy player die from Touch of Karma DoT ticks. There's spell damage reductions and self-dispels to survive that even if the monk somehow manages to get the outputting damage high.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10271887361

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Hotfix (2013-10-29): "Touch of Karma should now correctly redirect the same amount of damage that the Monk receives in PvP. Previously, the ability was incorrectly being modified by both the target and Monk's own Resilience.[/color]"

In hotfix se vorbeste doar de Resilience, nu si de alte damage reduction buffs.

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Confirm, numai resilience-ul targetului pe care este redirectionat damage-ul trebuie ignorat, daca targetul isi da un cooldown defensiv cu all damage sau magic damage reduction atunci ar trebui sa mitigheze din damage-ul karmei.


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e foarte simplu, sa zicem ca monk da ToK pe un warr:

Monk isi ia un hit de 100k (cu tot cu resil reduction de pe el), acest 100k este redirectionat pe warrior (ignorand resilience-ul warriorului) si impartit intr-un dot de 6 secunde.

Warriorul daca isi da shield wall sau intra in defensive stance, dot-ul de la karma trebuie sa faca update dinamic si sa fie mitigat de efectele astea, ce e asa complicat?

Valabil si pentru alte clase cu cd-uri de damage reduction.

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Post Posted: 31-08-2015, 23:51:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Proof ca trebuie sa fie mitigat de cooldownuri defensive de la playeri, topicul e facut inainte sa se faca hotfix la resilience double dip pe oficial. (link)

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It does get hit twice by resillience but it's not as simple as a simple addition.

With that said, the applied DOT debuff is only affected by resillience once more; that is the resillience of the enemy target. With that said it can also be midigated further by additionnal defensive cooldowns.

On a "standard" 58% resil target a 30k debuff would hit for 12.6k per tick so I'm guessing your target had additionnal midigation...like a boomkin with barkskin up, lock with unending resolve etc. Or maybe the target was getting a PW:S with the +resillience to target 4pc disc/holy bonus. Anyway point being ToK is really not as strong as it reads.


Dupa care s-a facut hotfix la resilience double dip, dar cooldownuri de all damage reduce sau magic damage reduce date de player tot mitigau damage-ul dat de karma si asa si trebuie.

In bug reportul precedent nu s-a specificat nimic despre cd-uri de la playeri pentru ca se vorbea strict de resilience double dip...


TL;DR Karma trebuie sa ignore DOAR resilience-ul playerului pe care este redirectionat damage-ul, daca acel player are ceva pasive sau cd-uri defensive de all damage/magic damage reduction, trebuie sa fie mitigat de ele.

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