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Post Posted: 10-02-2016, 07:13:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Banuiesc ca daca joc la maxim, se ajunge pe acolo, nu? Plus ca am doar 1 cooler, desi la GTX 970 banuiesc ca 2-3 ar fi necesare. Stii care ii faza, mie nu prea imi trebuie sa activezi hair on sau MSAA x4/x8 in jocuri, ca cu alea vad ca au probleme si procesoarele I7 cateodata. Eu daca e sa bag la maxim, bag aproape tot, maxim MSAA x2 sau TXAA x4 si fara alte porcarii care sa imi detalieze parul pubian de pe coama individului. Eu asta intreb, la raport calitate-pret, tinand cont ca joc la maxim, fara anti aliasing la maxim si alte chestii, care s-ar merita mai mult dintre cele 3 CPU?


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Post Posted: 10-02-2016, 20:36:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

i5 K

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Gigabyte Gaming G1 WindForce GTX 970 gets a max temp of 61c.


Diversi au avut si 70grade... totusi 80 e cam... prea mult


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Nu inteleg dc ajung la 80. Praful a fost suflat recent, chiar inca la inceput cand totul era luna si bec placa, a ajuns la 80. Intrebare mai aiurea, incalzirea poate avea legatura si cu placa de baza? Ii mai veche de fel. Carcasa ii asta http://www.altex.ro/carcasa-zalman-r1-1-x-usb-3-0-2-x-usb-2-0-fara-sursa . Sunt 2 ventilatoare la placa + 1 ventilator la carcasa (curand 2-3). Deci care sunt posibilele motive pentru care placa se incalzeste atat de mult?
Si acei diversi ce build au? Racire normala sau lichida? 1 ventilator sau mai multe? Au carcasa din aia speciala sau una normala?



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@Paragont ai incercat sa intri in Task Menu sa vezi ce program iti ingreuneaza pc.ul ? Si mie mi se mai intampla. Iati un procesor bun. Si vezi daca se observa schimbarea.
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Nu inteleg dc ajung la 80. Praful a fost suflat recent, chiar inca la inceput cand totul era luna si bec placa, a ajuns la 80. Intrebare mai aiurea, incalzirea poate avea legatura si cu placa de baza? Ii mai veche de fel. Carcasa ii asta http://www.altex.ro/carcasa-zalman-r1-1-x-usb-3-0-2-x-usb-2-0-fara-sursa . Sunt 2 ventilatoare la placa + 1 ventilator la carcasa (curand 2-3). Deci care sunt posibilele motive pentru care placa se incalzeste atat de mult?
Si acei diversi ce build au? Racire normala sau lichida? 1 ventilator sau mai multe? Au carcasa din aia speciala sau una normala?


Unul din ei sunt și eu. Dețin și eu un GTX970. Rãcirea e stock pe placa video, pe CPU e un nocturna, mai este acel cooler pe sursa și vreo 8 pe carcasa. Intrebare: ai carcasã mica? Medie?


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Post Posted: 11-02-2016, 16:06:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Umm...recomanda-mi mai bine o sursa care merge bine pentru GTX 970, si restul, ca asta deja incepe sa scoata sunete. Una buna si nu exagerat de scumpa.


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Post Posted: 24-02-2016, 18:06:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Bine ca ai zis placa de baza, nu, nu o sa mearga, e socket vechi, 1155 e pentru 2nd si 3rd genratii de procesoare. 4th gen de la intel foloseste 1150.

Pentru overclock (desi nu o sa ai nevoie in gaming in urmatoarele 24 luni cred avand in vedere ca ai 970) iti trebuie si o placa care sa suporte treaba asta, in cazul de fata recomand asrock-ul asta. Daca ai carcasa de carton va trebui si ea schimbata in momentul in care vei incepe sa faci overlock.

O mica recapitulare, deci acea placa de baza zici ca ii buna, mi s-a mai recomandat sa iau I5 4690k in loc de i5 4460, chestia ii ca pe net am vazut ca K-ul ii bun daca faci overclocking, va tine pasu si cu generatiile viitoare asa, posibil, dunno, desi comparatiile arata ca ambele merg la fel, fara overclocking. Deci in final ma bag pentru placa de baza + 4460 sau 4690k? Cam ce ziceti?



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Post Posted: 24-02-2016, 18:35:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

4690k daca te tine bugetul, eu am 2500 care este echivalent cu 4460 si il cam vad ca o sa inceapa sa gafaie peste 1-2 ani.

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Post Posted: 24-02-2016, 19:32:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Bugetul ma tine, numai ca vroiam sa fiu sigur. 4460 in comparatie cu 4690k cam cati ani crezi ca ar mai tine? 1-2 ani 4460, dar 4690k mai rezista un 3-4 ani sau mai mult?


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Post Posted: 24-02-2016, 20:39:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tot ce pot sa iti zic sigur e ca se fac toate eforturile ca jocurile sa nu mai indoaie procesoarele, mna, sa aibe cat mai multi potentiali clienti, vulkan si dx12 o sa scada mult CPU usage deci 3-4 ani nu o sa ai un stres.

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Post Posted: 25-02-2016, 07:59:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Eu nu inteleg alt lucru, de ce ai mai merge pe varianta Haswell Refresh care ii deja de 2 ani pe piata cand ai la dispozitie Skylake care a aparut abia anul trecut in Q3, plus ca pe Skylake ai suport DDR4. Din cate ziceai bugetul nu repezinta o problema, atunci nu vad de ce nu ai merge pe cea mai noua configuratie. Ziceai ceva si de o sursa noua, depinde la ce procesor te hotarasti, daca mergi pe o varianta non overclock atunci un Sirtec de 500 w este suficient, daca vrei un procesor la care o sa ii faci si overclock cred ca ar fi mai bine sa iei o sursa nitel mai puternica.


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Sincer, eu nu prea sunt cu OC-ul, si inca acum ma tot gandesc, 4460 sau 4690k? Adica intrebare stupida, cum se zice ca 4690k ar rezista mai mult ca 4460 in viitor, daca ti continuu un procesor in OC, asta nu va dauna putin la sistem? Momentam am sursa de 550W, banuiesc ca o sursa puternica trebuie si pentru un GTX 970, nu? Oricum, ca venit vorba de sursa, dimensiunea care o are (latimea) ii ~15 cm, 14.5 cm mai precis. Chiar daca ii 550W si pare ok, face figuri, deci sa iau alta la 550W sau sa merg pe 600W? Si avand aceeasi dimensiune, care mi-ar fi recomandata?
Cat despre OC, cam cu cat creste FPS-ul? Nu de alta, dar in comparatiile dintre aceste 2 CPU cam vad acelasi FPS, unele fiind locked, iar eu cum am monitor 60Hz, nu prea o sa pot depasi 60-61 FPS, si in urmatorii ani clar nu trec inca pe monitor cu frecventa mai mare, ca sunt putin mai scumpe alea.



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Post Posted: 28-02-2016, 11:18:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Daca nu treci pe ceva cu frecventa mai mare in urmatorii 2-3 ani poti sa mergi lejer pe 4460.

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Post Posted: 28-02-2016, 11:39:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Cum ramane cu sursa? Iau una tot de 550W sau merg pe 600W stiind ca placa video ii cam next-gen. Sau ceva recomandari de surse cu dimensiunea respectiva?


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Post Posted: 28-02-2016, 12:30:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Daca nu e ceva petarda duce lejer configuratia.

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