Remove/downscale pve from arena

[oriyus]

Shocker, http://wow.gamepedia.com/PvP_item_level they should be downscaled to 522 and obviously the proc chance should be lower and the benefits including the recovering rate etc..
In case you see that this is not a "concrete" evidence, you should disable pve trinkets in pvp areas since we all know that they are much better than the pvp ones right now.

[Vinsel]

Shocker is right saying that the sources are not completly clear... Actually I found a post in blizzard's forums saying that the only ilvl equal to full pride is 575 ilvl full pve

Quote:

It requires about ilvl 575 PvE to be on par with a full Prideful geared PvPer. There are far less PvE players in ilvl 575 gear than players in full Prideful (which can be gotten in low MMR 2s).

Source: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/12675249804?page=3

I agree to investigate what's going on with pve geared people in arenas, to see if there is something wrong with the actual downscale or something, but, as Shocker said, no valid posts so far... Also I could not find one, just that post I linked before.

Also, oriyus, your post is not actually 100% accurate on the downscale... It's from patch 5.3...


EDIT: Just found this:

Quote:

Downscaling In every structured PvP instance, that is Battlegrounds and Arena, all non-PvP items are scaled down to an item level of 496. This threshold will increase by one point per week to account for the increase in average item level of PvP players. The downscaling ensures that PvP gear is the most competitive gear in all important forms of PvP. If you exclusively wear PvP gear this should not affect you.

Source: https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/2019-pvp-beginner-guide-54/#forum-anchor-mechanics

So maybe they are all right in the pve gear scaling down to 522, but we still need to find a blue-post that put some light in here....


EDIT 2: So it appears that what @oiryus said is correct, just found another post in a pserver

Quote:

Item level of all items should scale down to 512. Except Gladiator gear (conquest point items, I think). This should happen in all PvP-dedicated zones, like Battlegrounds and Arenas.EDIT: Should also happen when you engage in open-world PvP. http://wow.gamepedia.com/PvP_item_level

But sadly is not a blue post...

[Shocker]

So which one is it? In your first part of the post you said 575, then 496, then 522, then 512

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[ckomi028]

Lets say neither, if you are geared enough, you can handle some 530 agi trink right, by geard i mean that you got alot PvP power, and then they can't deal so much dmg to you, and learn how to deal with that killing spree.

[Callabero]

ckomi028 wrote:

Lets say neither, if you are geared enough, you can handle some 530 agi trink right, by geard i mean that you got alot PvP power, and then they can't deal so much dmg to you, and learn how to deal with that killing spree.

Yes only coz of wrong reduced PVE trinket ill need to deal with pvp power to handle killing spree that breaks my karma in 2 sec truth fortifying brew in pvp. I tough I said somethin when i created this topic...

Callabero wrote:

PVE users in pvp dont even talk....

[ckomi028]

Bro its private server, you cant expect to be perfect, and cant be perfect....

[amir3d]

ckomi028 wrote:

Bro its private server, you cant expect to be perfect, and cant be perfect....

oh yeah?! so you mean just kick all pvp pro players out of server cos it's private server and cant be prefect?!!!

[Ashcool]

Please keep the drama away from this topic. We need to find a solution to the problem and not to argue with each other.
On topic: I couldn't find a blue post on that matter, however I can assure you my heroic warforged trinkets didn't scale down to 496 in PvP for sure. As far as I recall they were scaled down to 522 and they were dependable on the original item version - lfr / flex / normal / heroic.

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[Shocker]

I dowscaled it a bit more, -8 levels. Lets see how this goes, will be live after restart

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[but#pglist]

an easy way to force everything in this moment is to change the filter from ilvl to reslience number ( just an example ). if you dont have 10k reslience you can not join the arena. this way everybody will be forced to get and use the pvp set pridefull....but no..we downscale pve items...


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[Ashcool]

but#pglist wrote:

an easy way to force everything in this moment is to change the filter from ilvl to reslience number ( just an example ). if you dont have 10k reslience you can not join the arena. this way everybody will be forced to get and use the pvp set pridefull....but no..we downscale pve items...

And that's good because ...? People without full Prideful wont be able to play arenas, common sense please.

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[Callabero]

Ashcool wrote:

but#pglist wrote: an easy way to force everything in this moment is to change the filter from ilvl to reslience number ( just an example ). if you dont have 10k reslience you can not join the arena. this way everybody will be forced to get and use the pvp set pridefull....but no..we downscale pve items... And that's good because ...? People without full Prideful wont be able to play arenas, common sense please.

He prob thinked pvp resilience that gives only double pvp trinket, since u wont have both pvp trinkets, u wont be able to jon arena. But anyways that would be too huge unacceptable nerf. I would like it, but they already set 522 ilvl.

[Shocker]

Too much offtopic now. Closing this for now, downscale was increased

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