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Post Posted: 10-08-2017, 17:03:39 [Bad post] | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Catre Staff-ul Freakz,

As dori sa aflu daca se poate imbunatatii sistemul de Matchmaking pt bg-uri?
Stiu ca este un proces dificil sa creezi un algoritm care sa imparta healer-ii in mod egal in grupurile care urmeaza sa se confrunte in bg(momentan se intampla sa avem 4 intr-o parte si 0 din cealalta).
Problema care as dori sa fie adresata este aceaa in care intra cate 13-14 playeri intr-o parte si 10 in cealalta. Aceasta problema a fost semnalata in nenumarate randuri si pe durata expansiunii Mist of Pandaria si as dori daca se poate sa fie remediata.
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Post Posted: 11-08-2017, 03:32:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Da cu atitudinea asta nesimtita facem si noi ceva?

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Post Posted: 11-08-2017, 08:10:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

eu cred ca e o propunere destul de buna legata de scriptul pentru healeri. uneori intra si cate 6 la ally si hoarda 1 sau 0.


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Post Posted: 11-08-2017, 08:54:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

De obicei se intampla cand sunt premade-uri in queue. Intrasem primul intr-un Temple of Kotmogu, si un moment mai tarziu, aproape instant au intrat 13 playeri in echipa mea printre care se afla si un premade. A ajuns sa fie 14v9. Nu am filmare pentru ca deocamdata nu imi permit sa filmez retroactiv dar daca am norocul sa mai prind ceva de genul o sa postez.

Cat despre healeri, pe blizz sistemul se folosea de acel role check (gen iti alegi rolul inainte sa dai queue) si de obicei daca era un healer in queue, BG-ul nu pornea pana cand nu se gasea cel putin un healer pentru echipa cealalta. Astfel chiar daca stateai si cate 8 minute in queue, mai mereu aveai 1 healer in echipa ta vs 1 healer in echipa cealalta, 2 healeri in echipa ta vs 2 healeri in echipa adversa etc.

Ramane de discutat daca vrem sa sacrificam queue times pentru balancing. Desi cu crossfaction n-ar trebui sa fie asa mare problema, mai degraba cu premade-urile care aduc cate 2-3 healeri intr-o echipa, pentru ca aia nu pot fi redistribuiti.

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Post Posted: 11-08-2017, 09:31:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

de ce sa nu se poata ? cei care fac premade sa pice cu alt premade. complicat dar e posibil. sigur sunt echipe de premade si la hoarda si la ally


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Post Posted: 11-08-2017, 13:48:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

premade la alianta care sa aiba 2-3 healeri nu se prea gaseste din moment ce la alianta nu mai este nici o guilda PvP activa(care sa faca bg-uri) si nici playeri dispusi sa faca parte dintr-o astfel de guilda. Vrei pvp, bg-uri? Te duci la Hoarda si intri in Gnomebusters ca la alianta nu ai cu cine.
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Post Posted: 11-08-2017, 22:17:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

asta e un lucru foarte nasol de auzit pt cei de la ally


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Nu stiu dc plangeti, am jucat random bgs pe blizz unde ei aveau 3 healeri si eu 0, nu cred ca poate sa faca cv Shocker legat de asta, e in acelasi timp naspa pt cel care are 0 healeri si foarte ok pt cel care are healeri + ca pentru a face un premade nu e neaparat nevoie sa ai guild de pvp, poti sa anunti pe global ca faci un premade, gasesti 2 healeri si e ok, nu ai de unde sa stii cine e in premade daca nu sunt din aceiasi guilda.




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Post Posted: 12-08-2017, 19:24:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

nu se poate folosi acelasi script ca si la dungeon care cauta 1 tank 1 heal si 3 dps ?
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Vezi ca asa faceti si voi playeri, cereti blizzlike dar cand se repara o clasa, un spell anume care da prea tare si care nu trebuia sa dea, sariti toti in sus ca dc "nerfuim" acea clasa, cand defapt o reparam.




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Post Posted: 12-08-2017, 20:07:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Fie ca pici cu 0 sau 5 healeri, 14v9 intr-un BG de 10v10 ramane o problema...


Si cred ca din aceeasi cauza se intampla si problema cu "BG is full".
De trei ori am patit sa imi pice de X ori la rand acelasi BG si cand incercam sa intru in el "Battleground is full" de fiecare data. O data cu Twin Peaks, de doua ori cu Warsong Gulch. Probabil sistemul incerca sa ma bage in echipa cu 9 playeri, dar pentru ca in echipa adversa erau 11+ nu ma lasa sa intru (?)

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Post Posted: 28-08-2017, 08:11:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@Evydence

Sa fie si 5 healeri & 5 dps vs 10 dps dar sa fie 10 vs 10 ...
Poti tu sa-ti faci premade bun , e degeaba cand iti cade Twin Peaks 15 vs 8 .

Inteleg ca sunt o gramada de probleme de rezolvat , dar si asta e "destul de importanta"
Si sa nu-ntelegeti gresit , nu e vreo critica sau ceva , doar ca-i frustrant sa joci 15 vs 8 in TP sau 14 vs 9 intr-un ToK .

PS : Pot sa fac o lista cu cel putin 30 de persoane care se plang de problema asta .


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Post Posted: 11-11-2017, 20:51:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Catre Staff-ul Freakz, Shocker , Quicksand

As dori sa aflu daca se poate imbunatatii sistemul de Matchmaking pt bg-uri?
Stiu ca este un proces dificil sa creezi un algoritm care sa imparta healer-ii in mod egal in grupurile care urmeaza sa se confrunte in bg(momentan se intampla sa avem 4 intr-o parte si 0 din cealalta).
Se poate face ceva???



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Post Posted: 12-11-2017, 09:27:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Evydence wrote:
Nu stiu dc plangeti, am jucat random bgs pe blizz unde ei aveau 3 healeri si eu 0


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