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Post Posted: 28-12-2017, 15:51:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz item link: Rogue T19 Assassination 2P Bonus, Mutilated Flesh
Bug description: Damage should be increased by Agonizing Poison. Also current damage seems to be a bit wanky at times.
Proof:
1) wanky damage
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2) damage should be increased by agonizing poison:
(17.33 + 8.72) * 3 / 10 = 7.81m (he deals 10.79m)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qJ4rVdKDxTpcFZWb#fight=10&&type=damage-done&&source=14

Also if we look at the events we can see that damage from mutilated flesh is increased by agonizing poison:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qJ4rVdKDxTpcFZWb#fight=10&&type=summary&&source=14&&view=events

Taking a look at a different log w/o agonizing poison, damage is not increased:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vWnX1bTCLjH2kFQZ#fight=18&&type=damage-done&&source=20 (sorry for language, could not find one in en)





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Post Posted: 28-12-2017, 18:47:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

No it should not as the mutilate is already being increased by agonizing poison, you are suggesting agonizing poision should double dip for the 2p


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Post Posted: 28-12-2017, 19:33:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

If you would have taken a look at those logs, you would have seen what I'm talking about. Saying something w/o investigating is pointless.


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Post Posted: 29-12-2017, 00:06:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I dont see any damage multipliers (except legendary wrists) in the formula for mutilated flesh, do you?:

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Type - Periodic Damage

Display
Code Name - MutilatedFlesh

ID - 211672

Display Name - Mutilated Flesh Tick

Group - Under ID 5374

Icon - ability_deathwing_bloodcorruption_earth

School - Physical

General
Damage = TriggerDamage * 0.3 / 2
if HasItem(ZoldyckFamilyTrainingShackles) and TargetHealthPercent < Zoldyck(health)
= Damage * Zoldyck(damage)

Crit Chance = 0

Duration (sec) = 6

Interval (sec) = 3

Periodic Refresh Type Legacy

Append Damage/Healing? Yes

Miscellaneous
Disable Procs? Yes


Im asking because what you are implying is effectively double dipping, AP increases damage of mutilate once already and this makes the 2 piece deal more damage since its a % of the mutilate, and then you want AP to boost the already boosted 2p dot again. That is double dipping.

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Do a little math on this log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qJ4rVdKDxTpcFZWb#fight=10&&type=summary&&source=14&&view=events, search for mutilate and mutilated flesh, you will see.


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Summarized log:
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00:00:01.685   Cawt Mutilate Trilliax *228597*

00:00:01.685   Cawt Mutilate Off-Hand Trilliax *104265* // 228597 + 104265 = 332862

00:00:01.685   Trilliax is afflicted by Agonizing Poison (2) from Cawt // 2 stacks of agonizing

00:00:03.707   Cawt Mutilate Trilliax *247986*

00:00:03.707   Cawt Mutilate Off-Hand Trilliax *123620* // 247968 + 123620 = 371588

00:00:03.707   Trilliax's Mutilated Flesh is refreshed by Cawt

00:00:03.752   Trilliax's Mutilated Flesh is refreshed by Cawt // will do 3 ticks, (332862 + 371862) * 3 / 10 = 211335, 211335 / 3 = 70445, 211335 - 70445 = 140890

00:00:04.697   Cawt Mutilated Flesh Trilliax Tick 81466 //  70445 * ~1.15 = 81001, (Mastery: 11689 means ~7.2 per agonizing stack)

00:00:04.727   Cawt Envenom Trilliax *1433908*

00:00:04.727   Trilliax's Surge of Toxins is refreshed by Cawt // that means base agonizing is 3.52 + 1 = 4.52 before modifiers.

00:00:06.705   Cawt Mutilate Trilliax 199117

00:00:06.705   Trilliax is afflicted by Agonizing Poison (5) from Cawt // 5 stacks of agonizing

00:00:06.705   Cawt Mutilate Off-Hand Trilliax 89333 // 199117 + 89333 = 288450, 288450 * 3 / 10 = 86535

00:00:06.705   Trilliax's Mutilated Flesh is refreshed by Cawt // 86535 + 140890 = 227425

00:00:06.746   Trilliax's Mutilated Flesh is refreshed by Cawt // will do 3 ticks

00:00:07.730   Cawt Mutilated Flesh Trilliax Tick 111375 // 227425 / 3 = 75808, 75808 * ~1.46 = 110679



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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 02:14:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Find more Proof other than this one log please


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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 02:16:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

The t19 proc is using the legacy dot mechanic, and does not benefit from pandemic. Why are you saying 3 ticks when its only 2 ticks every 3 seconds over 6 seconds?
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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 09:38:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Learn your mechanics. ^

Update @ 30-12-2017, 09:38:37

Miran wrote:
Find more Proof other than this one log please

Suit yourself: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/11#boss=1867&&partition=1&&class=Rogue&&spec=Assassination



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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 10:51:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I dont have to learn anything, you have to explain yourself for asking a tier set bonus to double dip in agonizing poison for no reason, also the dot has no instant initial tick, so still waiting for an explanation of where you get 3 ticks instead of 2.
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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 11:49:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I don't have to explain anything to you as long as you don't know how legacy refresh works. You can clearly see on the logs, the dot IS increased, right now you are just hating.


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Post Posted: 03-01-2018, 03:09:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Legacy does not mean that the duration is always six seconds. Legacy means that for example if you have 3 sec periodic timer and a total of 6 seconds duration, when cast first time, you'll have 6 seconds max duration. if you recast it at 4.4 left, you'll have 6 + remainingPeriod = 7.4sec total duration, to prevent clipping one tick.

Nonetheless, I'll need normal proof for this one, because math does not really work on the logs.

https://imgur.com/a/08ESh

You cans see, he casts mutilate at 1.685 and the first tick of MF comes at 4.697, which is almost exactly 3000ms.

Yet the math does not really work here

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Post Posted: 03-01-2018, 11:02:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quick, it should be 211340 / 3, since the second mutilate extends the duration of the dot :)

LE: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2225932-Assasination-The-Emtpy-Crown-legendary?p=45880533&&viewfull=1#post45880533, plebs talking about double dipping



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Post Posted: 03-01-2018, 13:05:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yeah, but 211340/3 is still not the correct damage, and you can't say that AP increased it, since there is no AP yet on the boss.
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2 stacks of AP, aplied at 01.685: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qJ4rVdKDxTpcFZWb#fight=10&&type=summary&&source=14&&view=events


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