[REJECTED] [Item] Draught of souls

[marawind]

Garn wrote:

I managed to find a video from retail on 8 February with an Arms Warrior that has Draught of Souls 900 Ilvl 78% Mastery and 3.87% versatility and 54 traits ( the only scaling modifiers for arms). Retail proof here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/120690291 You can see his mastery and versa around 2:47. He did 11.800.000 damage with trinket average. Now on freakz I tried to copy his character and went 4.21% versa and 79% mastery, and 925 DoS. I am lacking like 2% damage increase from multipliers. I managed to do 13M thats because of 25 Ilvl higher than his DoS. https://i.imgur.com/srOC6yh.jpg As a conclusion this works properly to me unless you can prove otherwise.

my question is how that arms warrior with 900 dos trinket and 892 ilvl can do 18000000 damage per tick and on freakz fury warrior with 928 ilvl and 925 dos trinket does 1000000 - 1100000 damage per tick?

[Garn]

its because the 1.8M its from 2 ticks, if you calculate the total dmg the trinket did is 11.5 12M .


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Freakz Lich King 25H

[Quicksand]

that addon says 2hit, 2 crit, 1.8M damage

that means he did ~900k with each

[grarin]

Hi all,
Here ( https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/11#boss=1866&partition=1 ) you can see a list of DPS on Mythic Gul'dan on 7.1.5 ( at the top of the page under the Nighthold ecc you will see all the infos).

Then find the first EU warrior (not korean atleast) Nabbe,a fury warrior 913ilvl with NORMAL DoS ( you can also see all the equipments and legg).

Then if you click on him ( https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PCTwajgFxrAMz16v#fight=3&type=damage-done&source=14 ) you can see al the damage he deals to Guldan Myth in this specific run and all the buff he got trough the fight.

Then if you click on a specific spell, DoS NORMAL in our case, you can see the Avg Dmg is -991k- In our server my warrior 929ilvl deal at dummy with a 49 traits artifact and DoS Mythic 925 only 997k Avg Dmg without mastery food.

One thing guldan mythic fight DONT buff damage,you got only a buff in the first phase for +30% cast/haste/MS but NO DAMAGE.

From this logs at this moment we deal the exact damage of a 913 dude if i'am not mistaken.

One more thing,Fury warrior have a lot of thing that can change the damage of DoS: ( https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20753186503 here a dude said " Warriors have multimeans of uping the base damage the trinket does, with talents, mastery, versitility, and baseline abilities which put the damage sky high over a rogues." )
Avatar +20% all dmg
Frothing Berserker +15% all dmg
Mastery +x% all dmg during ENRAGE
Raging berserker(TRAIT) + 3% all dmg during ENRAGE
Unrivaled strenght(TRAIT) +15% all CRIT DMG during BATTLE CRY
Titanic Power(TRAIT) increase al dmg by x%

If i did something wrong let me know cya

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[northerlol]

grarin wrote:

Then if you click on him ( https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PCTwajgFxrAMz16v#fight=3&&type=damage-done&&source=14 ) you can see al the damage he deals to Guldan Myth in this specific run and all the buff he got trough the fight. Then if you click on a specific spell, DoS NORMAL in our case, you can see the Avg Dmg is -991k- In our server my warrior 929ilvl deal at dummy with a 49 traits artifact and DoS Mythic 925 only 997k Avg Dmg without mastery food. From this logs at this moment we deal the exact damage of a 913 dude if i'am not mistaken.

First of all, you can't see his item stats, and draught of souls ilvl, of course (right bar with talents/trinket section only shows normal version of trinkets, which is impossible for everyone in the logs to have a normal non-wf, non-tf version of trinkets), thus you have no way of knowing what's the actual item level of his Draught of Souls is. Gear aswell, you can see what item he has only by name, you dont see the stats, so there's always this possibility where he has more mastery and versatility than you, which results in better damage from DoS. You being 929 ilvl doesn't matter if your mastery and versatility are lower than his.

P.S. - in the video that Demonte posted in the OP, Kelade is using Dragon Roar which is additional 16%(from what he wrote in the video), and comparing their stats %, Demonte has 58% mastery and 2% versatility in his video,resulting in combined of 60% dmg increase, Kelade has 42% mastery and 4% versa, but since Kelade is using Dragon Roar, 42+4+16=62% dmg increase.

[demonte]

northerlol wrote:

First of all, you can't see his item stats, and draught of souls ilvl, of course (right bar with talents/trinket section only shows normal version of trinkets, which is impossible for everyone in the logs to have a normal non-wf, non-tf version of trinkets), thus you have no way of knowing what's the actual item level of his Draught of Souls is. Gear aswell, you can see what item he has only by name, you dont see the stats, so there's always this possibility where he has more mastery and versatility than you, which results in better damage from DoS. You being 929 ilvl doesn't matter if your mastery and versatility are lower than his. P.S. - in the video that Demonte posted in the OP, Kelade is using Dragon Roar which is additional 16%(from what he wrote in the video), and comparing their stats %, Demonte has 58% mastery and 2% versatility in his video,resulting in combined of 60% dmg increase, Kelade has 42% mastery and 4% versa, but since Kelade is using Dragon Roar, 42+4+16=62% dmg increase.

What are you talking about?I was showing the trinket tooltip,his 900ilvl equipped trinket has more dmg on tooltip than my 925ilvl trinket,that is the point!

[Garn]

northerlol wrote:

grarin wrote: Then if you click on him ( https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PCTwajgFxrAMz16v#fight=3&&type=damage-done&&source=14 ) you can see al the damage he deals to Guldan Myth in this specific run and all the buff he got trough the fight. Then if you click on a specific spell, DoS NORMAL in our case, you can see the Avg Dmg is -991k- In our server my warrior 929ilvl deal at dummy with a 49 traits artifact and DoS Mythic 925 only 997k Avg Dmg without mastery food. From this logs at this moment we deal the exact damage of a 913 dude if i'am not mistaken. First of all, you can't see his item stats, and draught of souls ilvl, of course (right bar with talents/trinket section only shows normal version of trinkets, which is impossible for everyone in the logs to have a normal non-wf, non-tf version of trinkets), thus you have no way of knowing what's the actual item level of his Draught of Souls is. Gear aswell, you can see what item he has only by name, you dont see the stats, so there's always this possibility where he has more mastery and versatility than you, which results in better damage from DoS. You being 929 ilvl doesn't matter if your mastery and versatility are lower than his. P.S. - in the video that Demonte posted in the OP, Kelade is using Dragon Roar which is additional 16%(from what he wrote in the video), and comparing their stats %, Demonte has 58% mastery and 2% versatility in his video,resulting in combined of 60% dmg increase, Kelade has 42% mastery and 4% versa, but since Kelade is using Dragon Roar, 42+4+16=62% dmg increase.

Same guy posted the Chronomatic encounter on youtube as well and in the description he said its full traits and 905 DoS.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xWCzRli2y3k:



All you need to know for Arms to compare is mastery and versa, there is nothing else that can modify the trinket damage on top of the normal BC & Avatar opener. There was literally no more than 2% dmg increase between me and him, the rest was the trinket ilvl which mine was 20 ilvl higher and I did around 1.2M more damage than him.

Regarding the difference in the the tooltip damage it needs to be investigated what is the cause of it.


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Freakz Lich King 25H

[demonte]

Yes,in your video Garn ,that arms warrior had 6 double hits of 1,8 mil average,and 1 hit of 880k ,that's 13 hits ,everything ok here,but he hits the same damage as my trinket at my gear as a fury warrior!

In the next video at 0:14 you can see his stats and 0:20 / 1:40 / 4:33 his trinket damage ,the only thing is that we cant see his DoS ilvl.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EPfY2pwl_H4&t=97:

[Quicksand]

As mentioned in the Kingsbane topic, the fix will be reverted, but in the same time we set up a system that allows us to closely monitor all damage instances from a specific spell that exceeds a given threshold, therefore we will be able to check what auras did the caster/target have when some of you guys hit for 1.8M+ per tick. The fix will be reverted pretty soon, I'll let the topic open so we can discuss further results

[Pepiblyat]

Can you explain to me why me and a guildie of mine with the exact same % mastery , ilvl , traits have such a huge gap between the dmg our trinket does. He is doing like 900k-1m per tick and like 12-14m overall dps with it, and i am doing like 600-700k per tick and 8-9m overall. We are both fury warriors with the same talents and doing the same rotation. Just tested it out 2 hours ago. My trinket was doing 20m before the 40% nerf. Then it did like 15 on the next day. And now i struggle doing 9m. Thats more than a 100 % nerf ???? I am not making it out just so you increase its damage by the way. It is an accual thing that bothers me. Why is there such a difference between us?

[Quicksand]

That is not possible. Something must differ. Link armory of yours and his.

[marawind]

Garn wrote:

northerlol wrote: grarin wrote: Then if you click on him ( https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PCTwajgFxrAMz16v#fight=3&&type=damage-done&&source=14 ) you can see al the damage he deals to Guldan Myth in this specific run and all the buff he got trough the fight. Then if you click on a specific spell, DoS NORMAL in our case, you can see the Avg Dmg is -991k- In our server my warrior 929ilvl deal at dummy with a 49 traits artifact and DoS Mythic 925 only 997k Avg Dmg without mastery food. From this logs at this moment we deal the exact damage of a 913 dude if i'am not mistaken. First of all, you can't see his item stats, and draught of souls ilvl, of course (right bar with talents/trinket section only shows normal version of trinkets, which is impossible for everyone in the logs to have a normal non-wf, non-tf version of trinkets), thus you have no way of knowing what's the actual item level of his Draught of Souls is. Gear aswell, you can see what item he has only by name, you dont see the stats, so there's always this possibility where he has more mastery and versatility than you, which results in better damage from DoS. You being 929 ilvl doesn't matter if your mastery and versatility are lower than his. P.S. - in the video that Demonte posted in the OP, Kelade is using Dragon Roar which is additional 16%(from what he wrote in the video), and comparing their stats %, Demonte has 58% mastery and 2% versatility in his video,resulting in combined of 60% dmg increase, Kelade has 42% mastery and 4% versa, but since Kelade is using Dragon Roar, 42+4+16=62% dmg increase. Same guy posted the Chronomatic encounter on youtube as well and in the description he said its full traits and 905 DoS. https://youtube.com/watch?v=xWCzRli2y3k: All you need to know for Arms to compare is mastery and versa, there is nothing else that can modify the trinket damage on top of the normal BC & Avatar opener. There was literally no more than 2% dmg increase between me and him, the rest was the trinket ilvl which mine was 20 ilvl higher and I did around 1.2M more damage than him. Regarding the difference in the the tooltip damage it needs to be investigated what is the cause of it.

what about frothing berserker? 15% increased damage? and what about that i have 3 relics unrivaled strenght and i do in total 30% critical increased damage in battle cry more than that arms warrior? what about Kazzalax, Fujieda's Fury? 4% increased damage on warrior fury? and what about the ilvl difference from 890 to 928 BIS ITEMS fury warriors have on this server including the difference from 905 DOS and 925 Dos? and do the exact damage like that arms warrior. come on guys... does this sound normal to you?

[demonte]

Quicksand wrote:

As mentioned in the Kingsbane topic, the fix will be reverted, but in the same time we set up a system that allows us to closely monitor all damage instances from a specific spell that exceeds a given threshold, therefore we will be able to check what auras did the caster/target have when some of you guys hit for 1.8M+ per tick. The fix will be reverted pretty soon, I'll let the topic open so we can discuss further results

I'm not saying that the damage before was blizzlike,it was a bit high,but this fix is not also blizzlike.I think that the 33* multiplier should be somewhere arround 40 and not 46 to bring the damage near to that on blizz.We can clearly see that on our server the formula of the trinket is different to askmrrrobot that's why I think askmrrrobot is not blizz,mb I'm wrong.

[emilian3192]

this is 1 player with 911ilvl who has Strength: 38,328 Stamina: 66,528 Crit: 7,909 Haste: 10,722 Mastery: 8,202 Versatility: 550 Leech: 445 and 910 ilvl on trinket

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YmBFMHKTAq7C9VWn#fight=10&&type=damage-done&&source=8



next 918 ilvl: Strength: 40,406 Stamina: 76,927 Crit: 4,937 Haste: 9,665 Mastery: 9,940 Versatility: 3,052 a 920 ilvl trinket

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MjRcfWDHwrP3Qh6a#fight=12&&type=damage-done&&source=66


Close topic pls!

[demonte]

Quicksand,in my first post we can see that guy 900ilvl trinket with a tooltip of 210 840,maybe you can modify the formula so that a trinket of same ilvl and stats
on freakz to have the same tooltip,as a suggestion.