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[REJECTED] Dual-wield vs Two-hand Artifact Weapons (Very important, please look into it)

 
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ropperogue

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Post Posted: 01-04-2020, 16:00:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz item link:
I used Death Knight weapons as an example for the bug because my main is a DK and I first noticed the bug when playing that character, but from a quick stroll through my alts, the bug seems to affect every class so i didn't include a link to a specific item here.

Bug description:
Excuse the wall of text, I tried to explain the bug in as much detail as I could, seeing how much it could affect class balancing in a massive way.
I first noticed this when viewing my artifact weapons in my bag, which are within 5 ilvl from each other and i noticed something weird. When combined my two swords from frost spec (Blades of the Fallen Price) have significantly less secondary stats than my two-hand axe for blood spec (Maw of the Damned). That struck me as bugged since i remember firmly that in both patches 7.1.5 and 7.2.5 they had the same stat budgets.

Seeing as i currently do not have 2 artifact weapons of the same exact level, I'll be using some donated characters from Freakz armory because there they all have 999 ilvl weapons, so the only difference between the weapons is the weapon type.

Math section:
When viewing a donated Frost DK you can see that the main hand weapon of 999 ilvl has 2339 strength, 3509 stamina, 521 critical strike and 500 mastery. If we multiply that by 2 (both swords have the same stats) we get these numbers: 4678 strength, 7018 stamina, 1042 critical strike and 1000 mastery. Let's compare that to the Blood DK weapon at the same 999 ilvl. It has 5459 strength, 8189 stamina, 1216 critical strike, 1168 mastery. I think it's pretty obvious, but i'll just make it easy to see:

2x One-hand artifact: VS 1x Two-hand artifact:
4678 < 5459 strength
7018 < 8189 stamina
1042 < 1216 critical strike
1000 < 1168 mastery
From this we can clearly see that on Freakz the stat budgets for dual-wield and two-hand artifact weapons are not the same. So the only thing we need to do is prove that on retail they were the same.

In the proof section there are two links to some donated characters I have used as examples for this server a screenshot of their weapons if you feel to lazy to mouse over those in armory links. I also looked at wowhead as my preferred database for retail wow and the artifact weapons there have the same stat budgets between each other (the numbers are way smaller because of BFA number squish, but we don't care about the exact numbers, we care about comparing two weapons). Note that tooltips on wowhead round the numbers out, so if a weapon has for example 12,5 critical strike, the tooltip will show 13. There is a screenshot with both weapons side by side, as well as the links to their pages on the site. If you look at those pages you'll see that there is no changelog part for any of the weapons, which means that their stats have remained unchanged since their introduction in patch 7.0.3 (except for the aforementioned stat squish of bfa), so I believe that the weapons should compare to each other the same way on retail BFA and Freakz 7.3.5.

Proof:
Donated Frost DK armory link: https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/eclaye
Donated Blood DK armory link: https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/ohrii
Donated weapons screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/AevWMsv
Wowhead Frost DK weapons links:
Main Hand: https://www.wowhead.com/item=128292/blades-of-the-fallen-prince&&bonus=0
Off Hand: https://www.wowhead.com/item=128293/blades-of-the-fallen-prince&&bonus=0
Wowhead Blood DK weapon link: https://www.wowhead.com/item=128402/maw-of-the-damned&&bonus=0#reward-from-q
Wowhead all 3 weapons side-by-side screenshot: https://imgur.com/qxAscpa

Please note that the only thing I did in this bug report is figure out and hopefully prove that the artifact weapon stat budgets are bugged. What I DO NOT KNOW however, is which of the weapons' stats should be buffed or nerfed to make them all have the same stat budgets. That's for someone with more experience to decide.

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Post Posted: 01-04-2020, 17:01:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quick note if someone missed it in that wall of text. This bug applies to ALL classes as far as i could test it from my alts and just inspecting random people. All two-handed artifacts have the same stats on the same ilvl no matter the class (as it should be) and all dual-wield artifacts have the same stats on the same ilvl no matter the class (as it should be). But all two-handed artifacts give more stats than all dual-wield artifacts (that's the bug i reported in the original post).
Although I admit I didn't test what happens to Fury Warriors, who dual-wield 2x two-handed swords, but that's easy enough to look up.

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Post Posted: 01-04-2020, 17:04:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Everything seems fine, the numbers are all very close to each others for Paladin & Warrior & (Blood Death Knight & Unholy Death Knight) while class artifacts being on 999ilvl.

Numbers:
Quote:
Sword + Shield (Protection Warrior & Protection Paladin)
3071 + 2339 = 5410 Strength
4605 + 3509 = 8114 Stamina
684 + 521 = 1205 Critical Strike
657 + 500 = 1157 Mastery
Two-Hand (Arms Warrior & Retribution Paladin & Fury Warrior)
5459 Strength
8189 Stamina
1216 Critical Strike
1168 Mastery


Paladin - PROOF: Retribution (https://imgur.com/a/Ed7Pr9U) vs Protection (https://imgur.com/a/bBxWPSZ)
Warrior - PROOF: ARMS (https://imgur.com/zJOPbz1) vs Protection (https://imgur.com/a/RcTTv4u) vs Fury (https://imgur.com/a/15FBYN1)

But Frost Death Knights fall short on that margine for up to ( 781 Strength - 1171 Stamina - 174 Critical Strike - 168 Mastery)
Death Knight - PROOF: Unholy (https://imgur.com/a/2pYPtey) vs Blood (https://imgur.com/a/QGsxUqB) vs Frost (https://imgur.com/a/6TDZ9M0)

Numbers:
Quote:
Two-Hand (Blood Death Knight & Unholy Death Knight)
5459 Strength
8189 Stamina
1216 Critical Strike
1168 Mastery
One-Hand (Frost Death Knight)
2399 + 2399 = 4678 Strength
3509 + 3509 - 7018 Stamina
521 + 521 = 1042 Critical Strike
500 + 500 = 1000 Mastery


Conclusion at the end: Everything seems fine - because every Two-Handed weapon has same stats, every Shield is giving same stats and also every One-Hand weapon is giving same stats -- which gets us to Frost Death Knights - Frost Death Knights are using One-Hand swords as a dual-wield, both of the swords are giving same stats as on Protection (Warrio & Paladin), so thats the only reason stats are short like that for Frost Death Knights.


Do you know what it FEELS like, to be TORTURED by your own mind?


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