[FIXED] [Warlock] pets

[Miikee]

Hello there.

I would like to bring to your attention Warlock pet issues.

1st of all, there are multiple abilities missing from pets like stamina buff for imps, knockback for succubus etc.
2nd. Pet dmg values are wrong. In bfa damage values across all pets should be the same, but somehow they are each doing different amounts of dmg. Which is even worse, when the cosmetic glyphs are applied, values change. Also, spells dont update to their new counterparts.

There are just so much issues with them rn that making a detailed list of each and every one of them is just not something that im interested in doing since you clearly have a capable class moderator.

Leechies, please make a detailed rework of Warlock pets.

[Lechies]

Hey, you provided no proof for everything you have said...

Miikee wrote:

1st of all, there are multiple abilities missing from pets like stamina buff for imps, knockback for succubus etc.

Are you sure your sources are from BFA? And if so then please provide more info.

Miikee wrote:

2nd. Pet dmg values are wrong. In bfa damage values across all pets should be the same, but somehow they are each doing different amounts of dmg.

Again no proof for this statement.

Miikee wrote:

Which is even worse, when the cosmetic glyphs are applied, values change.

I will check this glyphs problem soon.

I will leave this topic open for the moment in case you provide more info or I find anything that really is a problem. There is a problem on pets abilities already reported here.

Thank you

[Miikee]

Fine then.

Would be great to contact you dirrectly on discord though.

Update @ 29-12-2020, 22:36:58

As for the imp. I was wrong. The blood pact ability was on bfa only for a brief moment, sadly removed in 8.1

Since you said that you Will look into the glyph issue there is no further need to explain what abilities are or aren't missing. You Will find them for yourself.

As for the stat values. Please explain to me how is my succubus is doing more dmg then my felhoud, that is doing more dmg then my voidwalker if stat values should be as follows. https://ibb.co/P948wvL
This image is taken from.
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Warlock_minion

All i'm saying is that pets in General are a mess. Their behaviour, values and interactions, ever since 7.3 have gone to sh*t. Since this is a different core. Im guessing that not a lot of attention has been dedicated to this aspect of the game.

It would be greatly appreciated from the community if you could look into theese issues to continue providing us with smoother gameplay.

[Zlu]

- As far as I know, The Succubbus's Whiplash got changed in Battle for Azeroth. Whiplash - https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=6360 (wowhead link) isn't supposed to knock back or deal damage. Fellash on the other hand does knock back and deal damage. https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=115770 (wowhead link)

- The pets should not have all equal damage. Succubbus was always the best choice for Single Target situations and it should be doing more damage than any Warlock Pet, except Felguard if you are Demonology and Imp if you are Destruction, and even then she is Top Tier and absolutely great choice for Single Target situations. Felhunter is anti-mage and as it may not be the greatest choice of all pets, It's really useful in situations where you need Spell Lock and even though it's not the best choice for a pet, it should be doing more DPS than a Voidwalker which is a Tank pet and less than Succubbus.

- As far as the value change due to glyph change, I can't account for that since I can't check it on live realm but they did change some of Pet's abillities on retail. https://www.wowhead.com/spells/pet-abilities/warlock

Overall, I feel the like the Pet damage values are fine. If we compare it to retail, it's how they should be.

[Miikee]

Swear to god yesterday evening i had 4 ilvl's more and my pets did a bit more then x2 damage they do now.
Tell me this dmg is ok.
https://ibb.co/p4P4mVq
https://ibb.co/7CcCyGq
https://ibb.co/RbzZcwY
https://ibb.co/FB7fd6B

Stats:
https://ibb.co/KhrZpJN

[telesto]

Miikee wrote:

Swear to god yesterday evening i had 4 ilvl's more and my pets did a bit more then x2 damage they do now. Tell me this dmg is ok. https://ibb.co/p4P4mVq https://ibb.co/7CcCyGq https://ibb.co/RbzZcwY https://ibb.co/FB7fd6B Stats: https://ibb.co/KhrZpJN

Depends what spec you use them in. In destro your main dmg dealer is chaos bolt. Can't believe you want more dmg when having such OP ability haha

[Lechies]

The only problems I've found on pet glyphs is on Glyph of Wrathguard (Wrathguard's melee damage is lower than Felguard's) and lets say the succubus ones (all 3), it's a very little melee difference between them (ex. 411 vs 410). I will do a more detailed check on succubus glyphs in the following days.

So far this glyphs problem is the only valid problem here. I will still wait if someone manages to bring some valid proof on the rest.

[Miikee]

telesto wrote:

Miikee wrote: Swear to god yesterday evening i had 4 ilvl's more and my pets did a bit more then x2 damage they do now. Tell me this dmg is ok. https://ibb.co/p4P4mVq https://ibb.co/7CcCyGq https://ibb.co/RbzZcwY https://ibb.co/FB7fd6B Stats: https://ibb.co/KhrZpJN Depends what spec you use them in. In destro your main dmg dealer is chaos bolt. Can't believe you want more dmg when having such OP ability haha

The only spec that actually has any effect on this is demonogy, due to their mastery, etc.

Since you are claiming that the actual scaling of minions is correct, please tell me where did you come up with the numbers.... (i'm not talking only about auto attack dmg)


Lets look at Shadow Bite ability for example.

If i have 6200int, that translates into 1860 int for my felhunter.

1860*2=3,720 (accounting for 100% bonus damage for spells)
30% of 3,720 =1.116 (this is the damage that shadow bite should do, unless i missed a mod or something)... RN with 6200 int, my shadow bites does almost 3k.


Either way, I'm claiming that there is an error in the formula, please look into IT!

[Lechies]

Can't understant what are you calculating there but for Shadow bite the formula is:

7364 (intellect) x 0,3(30% of intellect for shadow bite/lash of pain, firebolt has 40%, consuming shadows has 7,5%) x 1,15(15% bonus multiplier, for firebolt is 25%) = 2540 (the actual damage)
Take that number and multiply it with versatility, spec aura (15% increase for demonology, 12% decrease for destruction) and/or mastery (demonology only).

The only problem here is (as I said 2 days ago) the glyph melee damage. If you believe that there is really something wrong please make a better report with valid proof.


https://trello.com/c/mqHTOQyG/425-warlock-glyphs-vs-pets-melee-damage

Discord: Lechies#8965

[FreakzStaff]

Issue is now fixed and moved to Fixed Bugs.

Trello Card Link : https://trello.com/c/mqHTOQyG/425-warlock-glyphs-vs-pets-melee-damage