[FIXED] Bryntroll the Bone Arbiter

[unbanat]

http://www.wowhead.com/item=50709

Bryntroll nu mai proc. Steal life, nu am dovada pentru ca trebuie video pentru a demonstra, nu am o versiune viabila de Fraps pentru acest lucru, dar stiu sigur ca am facut teste de mai mult 3 minute, oricum, normal dupa primele secunde ar trebui sa apara proc-ul.
Acest bug a aparut acum 2-3 zile.

Si daca tot am facut post despre aceasta arma as mai avea de adaugat faptul ca pe acest server damage-ul de la proc este afectat de resilience, normal nu ar trebui sa se intample acest lucru. Doar sa fie absorbit (partial sau in totalitate), iar healingul nu este egal cu damage-ul dat, este mai mic, chiar si fara healing reduction debuffs aplicate pe mine.

Va rog luati in considerare aceste buguri, deoarece fac aceasta arma inutilizabila.

Multumesc anticipat

[sundaysfantasy]

din cate stiu a fost scos proc-ul de la arma deoarece era o problema cu el, se activa prea des.

[unbanat]

Nu are cum sa se activeze prea des, cel putin la dk se activeaza bine...per total in raiduri scoate 5-6% din totalul de dps, exact cat ar trebui sa scoata, in fine nu asta e problema....cititi intai si voi...proceseaza bine, din normal hits(white)+abilitati melee, oricum postul nu e pentru lumea care contesta proc-rate-ul, ci pentru Shocker, sa o faca sa mearga asa cum trebuie.

[Revengeance]

are 15 % proc chance si nu are internal cooldown ( Cei de la blizz au fost total retardati cu no icd .... dar asta e adevarul)

[cizma]

mda.. ma miram eu de ce nu mai procuie brytroll...

Revengeance wrote:

are 15 % proc chance si nu are internal cooldown ( Cei de la blizz au fost total retardati cu no icd .... dar asta e adevarul)

la fel de retardati au fost si cu no cd la devouring plague...

[Revengeance]

1. The proc is Shadow damage. As such it can benefit from shadow enhancements, especially Ebon Plague. My average drain came to about 2.9k as an Unholy DK.

2. There is NO internal CD on the proc. Or if so, it is less then 2.7 seconds, since I watched it go off on two consecutive melee swings.

3. It is about a 15% proc rate. This number determined by just standing and auto attacking a dummy for a solid half hour.

4. It DOES proc off of skills When going all out, the proc occurred roughly twice as often for me (procing roughly the same number of times as BCB, which is 30% chance on melee swing with a small internal CD), going so high as 45 procs within 100 melee swings. It seems to be quite random as the numbers tend to vary wildly though. While I haven't tested enough to prove it, I highly suspect it can only proc off of physical hits (it only makes sense).

5. The proc CANNOT crit. Not once did it ever crit for me in my extensive testing.

6. The proc CAN miss. It appears to be regarded the same as any other spell and can miss depending on your spell hit or be partially resisted.

7. Spell power does not increase the proc's damage. Can't be as sure with this one, since the only spell power I could get was a 46 spell power food, but I found absolutely no noticeable increase in the proc's damage after eating.

Warning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH-aZFOWVwA

Golden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30wgKoNbr10

You're under arrest for not playing card games !

[Shocker]

E destul de imba ala, trebuie sa aflu exact daca chiar asa e si pe blizz, ceva videos de pe retail ar fi helpful

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[unbanat]

Da, Shocky iti fac rost daca vrei, numai sa o faci sa mearga cum trebuie

[Shocker]

Pai fa rost

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[Xh3lar]

Am testat-o eu , s-a activat de 4 ori in 10 secunde DOAR de la white swings.Daca mai dai si abilitati... ai sanse sa prinzi procuri la fiecare.Din cate stiu ar trebui sa fie limitata la 2ppm , adica sa faca proc de 2 ori pe minut.

[casperikz]

adik intr'un duel doar de 2 ori ? not fair

anyway yeah

Quote:

The drain has a base proc rate of 2 procs-per-minute, or 11.3333% chance per swing, and has no internal cooldown.[ The drain can proc multiple times per attack, provided there's are more than one weapon event for the attack. For example, the drain can multi-proc off the following: - On any or all of the multiple targets of Cleave, Whirlwind, Divine Storm, Heart Strike, or Sweeping Strikes. - From a melee (or special) and it's subsequent seal proc, Blood-Caked Blade proc, or Windfury proc. - From both the physical and shadow portions of Scourge Strike.

Froster: Zohl unde crestinizarea ta esti?

[unbanat]

Xhelar, 2ppm se refera la sansa aproximativa sa procuie....la o viteza de 3.4/swing si 11% chance/hit...dar in realitate poate procui mai mult, sau deloc. Depinde ce bulan ai
Cat despre 4 procuri in 10 secunde nu are cum, deci ai dat 4 hituri si a procuit de 4 ori...greu de crezut.
Cele mai bune teste sunt de 100+ hituri...white acolo determini cat % procuie.

P.S. Shockere eu caut videouri cu arma asta, cam greu de gasit, dar daca nu gasesc incerc sa iau niste log change care se refera la aceasta arma (ca a fost nerfuita dupa nu-stiu-care patch)



OFF TOPIC: Pentru Shocker:
Stiu ca nu are nicio legatura cu ce se discuta aici, dar te rog uita-te si peste reportul pe care l-am facut despre Sigil of the Vengeful Heart, pentru ca este esential pentru mine ca DK in PvP, nu functioneaza in cazul Death Coil-ului.
Fara el imi este cam greu sa dau asa zisul 'burst' de care am nevoie sa omor lumea cand are <20% HP

[aprow]

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The drain has a base proc rate of 2 procs-per-minute, or 11.3333% chance per swing, and has no internal cooldown.
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The drain can proc multiple times per attack, provided there's are more than one weapon event for the attack. For example, the drain can multi-proc off the following:
- On any or all of the multiple targets of Cleave, Whirlwind, Divine Storm, Heart Strike, or Sweeping Strikes.
- From a melee (or special) and it's subsequent seal proc, Blood-Caked Blade proc, or Windfury proc.
- From both the physical and shadow portions of Scourge Strike.
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The drain can not proc from any spells, excluding the odd events mentioned above.
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The drain is incapable of critting and functions on the spell hit table. However, it doesn't seem to be resistible.

cu alte cuvinte ce vrea sa zica bajatul asta, e ca proc rate cu white hit fara niciun fel de modificare la speedul armei (haste) este de 11.33333% . Deci era normal cum mergea,chiar daca era op.

[Tyr]

Rawr also corresponds to what these guys are saying, it has a 2ppm/11.3333% rate with no internal cooldown.
Google translate: Rawr corespunde, de asemenea la ceea ce aceºti oameni spun, are o ratã 2ppm/11.3333%, fãrã a cooldown interne.


http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12947345903&&sid=1
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22048473487&&pageNo=10#184

From what I understand is that in latter patches Bryntroll, the Bone Arbiter was made to proc mostly from auto-attacks and special attacks and not by secondary passive damage talents and skills. So I'm guessing for Retribution Paladins this means that damaging Seals, refreshing Righteous Vengeance and refreshing Holy Vengeance should no longer be able to activate the proc. For Death Knights (Unholy specifically) I found this thread: http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t72364-unholy_dps_3_3_5_only_exception/p83/#post1515875

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Ok, tested since the hotfix: - It can still proc from BCB strikes. - It CAN still apply from Icy Touch. - It CAN still double-proc from Plague Strike - It doesn't seem to be able to proc off the shadow portion of Scourge Strike. - Refreshing diseases with Pestilence via Glyph of Disease does not seem to proc it. - It CAN, however, proc off of spreading diseases with Pestilence, even apparently on targets out of melee range (had it proc against a target dummy ~9 yards laterally away from me), and on the primary target (so long as Pestilence hits more than one target, that is). Assuming this is the way it stays, this adds 36.55 dps and 60.92 AEP to the above for non-GoD Unholy (total 330.61 dps, 551.02 total AEP) and 37.54 dps and 62.57 AEP for non-GoD Blood (total 377.10 dps, 628.50 AEP).

Well, Shocker, what say you to that?

[Morphine]

Nici la mine nu procuie,cand trebuie sa procuie imi zice "That spell is not available to you",deci e scos procu,presupun.

Am vazut o discutie @ WoW Offical forums,cum ca ar fi la fel de OP si pe Blizz[cum era si pe freakz pana nu a mai fost]


The theorycrafting on this potent weapon is still rather sparse, so I spent several hours testing the limits of the proc and it's dps contribution. First off, the basics:
The 264 version proc has an average damage of 2250, while the 277 version has an average of 2538.
The damage does not scale with any character stats (though the dps does, more on that below).
The damage does scale with any percentage damage increases that affect spell damage, such as Avenging Wrath, Curse of Elements, Blood Presence, etc.
The drain can proc off of any weapon attack, as well as some odd events such as applying or refreshing effects such as deathknight diseases or the paladin talent Righteous Vengeance. These odd events do have some requirements though. The drain can proc off of the refreshing of some DoTs or debuffs so long as the character is within melee range of and facing the target for the drain. Specific to the deathknight class, the drain can proc off of the disease application of Icy Touch (assuming you are in melee range), can double-proc off Plague Strike (the strike and the disease application), and on each target that is in melee range and in front of you from Pestilence.
The drain has a base proc rate of 2 procs-per-minute, or 11.3333% chance per swing, and has no internal cooldown.
The drain can proc multiple times per attack, provided there's are more than one weapon event for the attack. For example, the drain can multi-proc off the following:
- On any or all of the multiple targets of Cleave, Whirlwind, Divine Storm, Heart Strike, or Sweeping Strikes.
- From a melee (or special) and it's subsequent seal proc, Blood-Caked Blade proc, or Windfury proc.
- From both the physical and shadow portions of Scourge Strike.
The drain can not proc from any spells, excluding the odd events mentioned above.
The drain is incapable of critting and functions on the spell hit table. However, it doesn't seem to be resistible.
Now, with a 2 PPM baseline, the weapon will deal 2 procs a minute before any waste or special attacks or talents are factored in, giving it a minimum dps of 75. In practice, the proc will usually provide between 200 and 400 dps, depending on the character's haste rating, spec and rotation (and therefore number of procable attacks per second), spell hit chance, and +damage buffs present. A good estimate is that it will provide approximately 4-8% of a character's dps. For many classes, this means the proc is worth the equivalent of between 400 and 800 additional attack power, though it's place on the best-in-slot list is strongly dependent class, spec, haste rating, and rotation. In general is can be assumed to be near the top of the list, however, as the proc itself provides a fairly respectable amount of dps while also making it easier for the healers to keep you alive through miscellaneous raid damage. [WoWHead Comment,sper sa ajute]