Dragon Soul: First 6 Bosses

[tudor1297]

nu merge avoidance la consuming shroud @ragelez



[RO]Warrior Fury PvE Guide 5.4.8

[EN]Warrior Fury PvE Guide 5.4.8

[Rageless]

Avoidance la ce, pets ?

[Aditzu15]

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=46584&&name=raise-dead

La hagara pet-ul de la DK moare in frost phase!

[tudor1297]

da pets ofc
mi-a murit petu de la hunter ca a murit ala cu debuffu



[RO]Warrior Fury PvE Guide 5.4.8

[EN]Warrior Fury PvE Guide 5.4.8

[Seyrox]

nu merge avoidance la yor'sahj nici la dk nici la warlock petul moare ori cand bubuie unul cu debufuri sau de la red beam



Demonolgy Warlock Guide 5.4.8

[shhnedo]

shhnedo wrote:

After transitioning back to normal phase Zon'ozz shouldn't be casting Psychic Drain (wowhead link) until he spawns Void of the Unmaking (wowhead link). Every normal phase should begin with a void spawn, not with psychic drain. The current spell rotation is confusing for tanks as it freaking randomizes every time you start the fight. Proof that Zon'ozz shouldn't cast Psychic Drain at the beginning of normal phases: https://youtube.com/watch?v=k_-6SufqELU: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gqX0Qr0KKQ8:

Soo... nobody's looking into this?

[Shocker]

Am facut niste fixuri la avoidance, sa aibe toti petii si summons avoidance (sper sa nu fi scapat vreunu) si totodata sa nu mai fie complet imuni la unele AoE spells in PvE (erau asa din cauza unor "fixuri" facute de pirin) ci sa primeasca doar 10% damage cum ar trebui

Seyrox wrote:

nu merge avoidance la yor'sahj nici la dk nici la warlock petul moare ori cand bubuie unul cu debufuri sau de la red beam

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[Searing Blood] hit [Shaathun] 3622 Fire. [Searing Blood] hit [You] 35000 Fire.

Cum nu? Am testat, Shaathun e petul meu, a luat doar 10% damage si eu full 100%

tudor1297 wrote:

nu merge avoidance la consuming shroud @ragelez

Nu stiu ce sa zic despre asta, Avoidance:

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Effect #1   Apply Aura: Mod AoE Damage Taken From Creatures % Value: -90% Targets: Caster

Damage taken FROM CREATURES. Consuming Shroud ala e castat (indirect) de playerul care bubuie. Ori trebuie exceptie la spellul ala, ori nu ar trebui sa fie problema. Cautati dovezi

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[shhnedo]

shhnedo wrote:

After transitioning back to normal phase Zon'ozz shouldn't be casting Psychic Drain (wowhead link) until he spawns Void of the Unmaking (wowhead link). Every normal phase should begin with a void spawn, not with psychic drain. The current spell rotation is confusing for tanks as it freaking randomizes every time you start the fight. Proof that Zon'ozz shouldn't cast Psychic Drain at the beginning of normal phases: https://youtube.com/watch?v=k_-6SufqELU: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gqX0Qr0KKQ8:

Imma quote myself one last time. Zon'ozz freaking randomizes his abilities each and every time I enter DS!!! Last week's DS I tanked zon'ozz and started with him facing the whole raid. Guess what, he cast Psychic Drain first on 90% health(went back to 100%). I thought "OK, PD first, void second" and completed zon'ozz without him healing anymore. Now, JUST NOW, a DS 10n began with Zon'ozz. After that last DS (Drain first, void second) I pulled zon'ozz and faced him AWAY from the raid. Guess what, VOID OF THE UNMAKING WAS CAST FIRST. Guess who took all the blame - me again. I got accused of faking both siege and fall achievement. Every single ignorant bastard in the raid started throwing trash at me and what not.
So just fix the spell order so I don't have to guess what's he gonna cast first every time I enter DS. Spells didn't randomize on blizzard, they sure as hell shouldn't randomize here.
And no,
I WILL NOT BE USING DBM!
I never needed this addon just so I don't mess up some freaking simple spell order.

[Macedo931]

shhnedo wrote:

And no, I WILL NOT BE USING DBM! I never needed this addon just so I don't mess up some freaking simple spell order.

Thumbs up for this, DBM is making people braindead for PvE.
Too many wipes on easy fights because "shit, my dbm got bugged, i didn't know I have to bring my brain for this raid".
Most of the needed stuff you NEED to know for a boss encounter can be: (80%) remembered and (20%) set up via other useful addons like Power Auras (Fading Light, Consuming Shround, but primarily used for other stuff).

[Macedo931]

It can handle it, but I'm not using it because it's too damn confusing. It's useless for everything beside Zon'ozz timers, and it would be useless there too if the Void/Drain timer script was completely blizzlike.
I forgot to turn it off once after tanking Zon'ozz, and because of the dumb "BEWARE!!1!one1one!" shouting, I used Heroic Will before Ultrax even started casting HoT, which ofc made me go out of normal realm just in time to get hit by it.

[shhnedo]

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=55308#comments:id=1584103
The "IN SHORT" part says it all.

[Seyrox]

pe dk unholy imi dispare frost fever de pe target(si nu e doar visual) la toti bosii.



Demonolgy Warlock Guide 5.4.8

[lavaloare]

Seyrox wrote:

pe dk unholy imi dispare frost fever de pe target(si nu e doar visual) la toti bosii.

+1 se poate demonstra.

[madau]

e o problema cu ceea ce inseamna debuff de tank (acele abilitati care reduc attack speed la boss). Partea de "and reducing the target's melee and ranged attack speed by 20%" din descrierea Frost Fever se suprapune cu alte debufuri pe boss si e probabil scos frost fever cand da tankul (de obicei, sau - de exemplu - un druid cu puncte in Infected Wounds) aplica acel debuff. Partea foarte nasoala la DK e ca, din cate stiu, dmg multor abilitati este influentat de cate diseases sunt pe target. Problema cred ca e generala la DK pe orice spec, nu doar pe unh.
Nu pot face teste pentru proofs acum dar se poate verifica foarte usor! Deschideti un bug report acolo unde trebuie, puneti cateva PS sau un video si gata. Sau apelati la bunavointa unui GM sa testeze cu voi.



Vengeance is in my heart, death in my hand,
Blood and revenge are hammering in my head.

[madau]

shhnedo wrote:

shhnedo wrote: After transitioning back to normal phase Zon'ozz shouldn't be casting Psychic Drain (wowhead link) until he spawns Void of the Unmaking (wowhead link). Every normal phase should begin with a void spawn, not with psychic drain. The current spell rotation is confusing for tanks as it freaking randomizes every time you start the fight. Proof that Zon'ozz shouldn't cast Psychic Drain at the beginning of normal phases: https://youtube.com/watch?v=k_-6SufqELU: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gqX0Qr0KKQ8: Imma quote myself one last time. Zon'ozz freaking randomizes his abilities each and every time I enter DS!!! Last week's DS I tanked zon'ozz and started with him facing the whole raid. Guess what, he cast Psychic Drain first on 90% health(went back to 100%). I thought "OK, PD first, void second" and completed zon'ozz without him healing anymore. Now, JUST NOW, a DS 10n began with Zon'ozz. After that last DS (Drain first, void second) I pulled zon'ozz and faced him AWAY from the raid. Guess what, VOID OF THE UNMAKING WAS CAST FIRST. Guess who took all the blame - me again. I got accused of faking both siege and fall achievement. Every single ignorant bastard in the raid started throwing trash at me and what not. So just fix the spell order so I don't have to guess what's he gonna cast first every time I enter DS. Spells didn't randomize on blizzard, they sure as hell shouldn't randomize here. And no, I WILL NOT BE USING DBM! I never needed this addon just so I don't mess up some freaking simple spell order.

sorry for the quoting the quoted quote but it's the only way to make this clear:

What you say is very wrong. The psychic drain being before or after the ball, after the black phase depends on how many bounces you had in the previous ping pong. You can find proof here

Quote:

After exiting the Black Phase, Warlord Zon'ozz will, normally, first summon another Ball, and 5 seconds later he will start casting Psychic Drain Icon Psychic Drain. However, in case the previous Ping Pong Phase lasted less than one minute, the boss is likely to cast Psychic Drain before summoning the Ball.

The psychic drain should be cast every 20 seconds when not in black phase. The time between the ball-spawn is AT LEAST 90 seconds, depending on how many bounces you've had in the previous ping-pong. The black phase takes 30 seconds every time.

To explain, let's have an example: first spawn 0:14, 5 bounces 0:55 seconds - 1:09, first black phase ends 1:39, second spawn 1:44.
On this interval let's see where the drain should be: 0:20, 0:40, 1:00, 1:20 - it's in black phase so the spell is not used, 1:40, 2:00. The drain @1:40 is not in the black phase so it will be cast, the ball will spawn at 1:44 as the 90 seconds have passed.
It does work as intended.

As for psychic drain at the beginning of the encounter, before the ball spawn, that is very odd and i've never seen it happen.

Hope it helps!

LE: The time-line from above was just an example. It's not the right timing on the server, I don't really know if the ball is spawned at 0:14 or if 5 bounces take 55 seconds. The black phase timing IS 30 seconds as you can see in the link above.
As for you using DBM or not is just a personal choice. You just have to know that DBM works by his own timers that are started by some things that happen in the encounter. For example, the Psychic Drain timer is set by the start of the encounter and is hidden when the black phase starts.
If you chose to not use DBM than you should take a way better look at the script of each and any boss, together with having in mind that what is on Blizz might not happen here 100%.



Vengeance is in my heart, death in my hand,
Blood and revenge are hammering in my head.