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[FIXED] [Death Knight][PvE][PvP] Scourge strike shadow part CRIT increase
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Post Posted: 16-04-2013, 13:50:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=55090&&name=scourge-strike
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Well , the shadow part of scourge strike CANNOT crit because , as it should be based of the damage on the physical part , that means it could double dip into crit and be really op -

Thing is , scourge strike got fixed to have the shadow part calculated on the full unreduced physical damage , but there's a problem , if the physical part CRITS the shadow part doesn't get increased ..
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First image shows the recount for the physical part and second for the shadow one , as you can see , melee ranged from 12 to 13k and had a 27k crit, shadow , ranged from 15 to 17k , which should correspond with the 12-13k damage , and there's no bigger hit for the crit that happened , the max damage for ss shadow should double that , because if the melee damage inflicted is doubled , the result of calculated shadow part damage is going to be naturally doubled

Another way to view it is that when the physical part crits , the shadow part would automatically too , since if the shadow part takes on the physical damage for calculations , if the physical damage is double so is going to be the shadow one


http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2046566958

"Shadow Portion of SS is not suppose to crit, or else it would be double dipping into crit. This was fixed several patches ago.

The Shadow portion of SS does increase when you crit."

http://simulationcraft.org/430/Raid_T13H.html#Death_Knight_Unholy_2h_T13H

In this link someone post on the other rejected report of SS , you see the max ss shadow is always above the max ss physical , 38k over 34k , that makes safe to say SS crit counting to a damage increase for the shadow part is NOT working here

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Post Posted: 16-04-2013, 15:49:12 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Da si vreau sa adaug ca SS am observat ca tine cont de diseasuri, nu de damage-ul fizic pe care il provoaca acesta.
Pe dummy cand imi era eliminat propriul debuff de 8% magic damage increase si 30% disese damage increase de catre un warlock sau druid, imi scadea damageul considerabil cam 40% la damageul Shadow de pe SS.



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Post Posted: 16-04-2013, 17:46:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Death-Knight-PvE-PvP-Ebon-Plaguebringer-priority-t197509.html that is already reported sir
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Post Posted: 16-04-2013, 17:51:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I know, i just wanted to say that the shadow damage from SS dosen't depend from how high you hit with SS, its all about your diseases. So, if you crit, if you don't crit is the same Shadow dmg, it depends on Your STR when you apply the diseases. That's what i think.


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Post Posted: 16-04-2013, 17:58:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

well that's because like I said , now SS shadow part is calculated BEFORE the physical part is reduced

That means in the same setup with the same strenght and versus different defense enemies , the shadow part is always going to be the same , because like I said , SS gets calculated on your SS BEFORE it's gets reduced , you don't have to rely in how much you hit with it

That basically prevents the shadow part from being reduced by amor and 2 times by resilience

The problem seems it is that the shadow damage is calculated before melee part goes lower AND before melee part does a critical hit.... that's the problem

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Post Posted: 16-04-2013, 18:36:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

But how you explain that without that debuff "Ebon Plaguebringer" the shadow parts hits so low? there is just 8% magic damage increase and there is a 40% lowere damage ?


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Post Posted: 16-04-2013, 19:02:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

uh..... because ebon plaguebringer other name is also known as "Uh dk third disease?"

Yes dude..

yes....

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Ebon plaguebringer is a disease , Unholy dk has 3 diseases instead of 2 !!

That means you're not just losing 8 % magic damage for the ss shadow part , you're also losing 18 % of the phys hit boosted by the glyph + mastery

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Post Posted: 16-04-2013, 20:29:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

yeaaaah....you're right -
So the critical strike bug is the what remain in the corner. Hope it will be done sooner.



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Post Posted: 16-04-2013, 21:48:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

confirmed


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Post Posted: 16-04-2013, 21:48:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

confirm bug@criticals.


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Post Posted: 16-04-2013, 21:53:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Confirmed



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Post Posted: 16-04-2013, 23:12:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Confirmed
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Post Posted: 17-04-2013, 09:39:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

confirm



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Post Posted: 17-04-2013, 11:12:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Casuta Raster, ce zici, sunt destule proofs pt confirmed? Stiu ca au venit baietii pe forum acum vreo sapt cu QQ ca da dku prea tare si nah hai sa numai dea SS shadow nici un strop de damage.E pacat ce se intampla, oricum confirmed.


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Post Posted: 17-04-2013, 11:42:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

They can cry whatever they want to , simulcraft 34 + 38k scourge strike

I think it's enough proof , retail post saying the shadow part is increased on crit , simulcraft showing that on a 34k ss hit the subsequent ss shadow is 38k and pics posting that on a crit the shadow part is not increased

I don't know why tho , it's common sense . the skill says it does a X % of the physical damage in shadow damage... if the physical damage increases due to a crit... so should the shadow damage

And all in all it's NOT going to be a BIG damage increase , because as all dk know , dk has low crit... my decked out pvp dk has 5% crit - , so it's not like dk is going to start hitting bigger all of a sudden , but if dk scores a crit... yea it will hurt X)

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