[FIXED] [Druid][Feral][PvP] Rake high damage in PvP

Quicksand · Posted: 26-09-2017, 16:06:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

So what about it? You still DID NOT BRING PROOF. The images you used are MOONFIRE damage. (I can use capslock too)

iLvl 884 I have 20635 agility.
Rake has 91.2% coefficient, that's 18819.
It has 80% pvp modifier, that's 15055.
Tear and Flesh gives 21% increase, that's 18216.
38.75% mastery makes it 25275.
9.58% versa makes it 27697.
Feral passive gives 16% increased damage, that makes it 32543.

My tooltip says 32645 and I deal 32644. So unless you are crying for that "1" damage, I don't understand you. https://imgur.com/a/53Rbs

Do you have anything to add to this? Because I will NOT accept a screenshot on which I cannot see his health, etc and which is CLEARLY a moonfire cast and not Rake.

Update @ 26-09-2017, 17:06:10

Also, do you want to lie to me or what?
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Druid-Feral-PvP-Lunar-Inspiration-t487537.html

Here, your own post where you CLEARLY talk about moonfire, and you tell me that first damage is 25233 and dot is 19625.

Magicqtz · Posted: 26-09-2017, 16:06:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ah ***..my bad, yes you are right. Just a second.

I've tested with Raven 2 days ago. You should speak with him..

What we tested.

Tear and flesh.
With 860ilvl he did 25k-26k non crit rake in arena instance. With 1 point in tear and flesh he did 31k, he put rip on me, he did 31k with rip, the same dmg which is wierd.
So one point means 7% increase dmg and from 25k-26k non crit dmg to 31k non crit dmg is not 7%.
If you want I'll go online to make the same.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/sylvanas/mostfckedup

Quicksand · Posted: 26-09-2017, 16:16:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Did you check your own post? You're unbelievable, it's YOUR OWN words, dammit. Check the other post. You have 2 screenshots for moonfire for the exact same 25233 damage.

Magicqtz · Posted: 26-09-2017, 16:18:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quicksand wrote:

Did you check your own post? You're unbelievable, it's YOUR OWN words, dammit. Check the other post. You have 2 screenshots for moonfire for the exact same 25233 damage.

Yes, yes. Sometimes people make mistakes..you can close both if you want, the problem is at tear and flesh from what I saw with @Raven3.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/sylvanas/mostfckedup

Quicksand · Posted: 26-09-2017, 16:21:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Will check tear and flesh :)

Update @ 26-09-2017, 17:21:27

Also, moonfire actually deals more damage than intended, that'll be fixed soon

raven3 · Posted: 26-09-2017, 16:26:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Will look for a video for rake without any sort of increase.

Garn · Posted: 26-09-2017, 17:49:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I think people often tend to argue for their own personal interest instead for the sake of actually balancing all classes to work as they should.

For the future please keep a decent attitude and make sure your arguments are covered by proof not just for the sake of expressing your biased opinion.

There is enough work for devs, don't make this even more burdensome.

Posting a new BUG REPORT has to follow the template you get when opening a new topic or it can be instantly rejected.

Freakz Lich King 25H

raven3 · Posted: 26-09-2017, 18:09:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ok.
so https://youtube.com/watch?v=MQxilbgAg50:

at 2:00 there is a 86406 noncrit rake. At bottom right corner of the screen.
That tick was from stealth and with bloodtalons.
I recreated that scenario and I was hit for 90700

Ragenandez · Posted: 26-09-2017, 18:30:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

As i see, there is 2k - 5k difference for each dot (rip/rake/moonfire). No idea if is the ilvl problem , the guy in the video might have 1% more stats so you can get a small difference like 2k. Anyway hopefully you can find the reason and fix it (if there is a bug).

Tianton · Posted: 26-09-2017, 18:34:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

4k with bloodtalons so soemthing like less then 2k on normal rake, im pretty sure that can be just ilvl diff

Magicqtz · Posted: 26-09-2017, 18:49:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@Ragenandez, ilvl is a shit in PvP, 1% is a shit, for ex, he did 86.406, if i put 1% (10ilvl) that means 87.200. To reach to 90.700 you must have 50 ilvl +

But not that is the point..I'm sick of you Tianton, every post on feral you always give a word of shit. Take a video with normal rake without increase dmg and then recreate the situation...no you don't do that..bcs you play feral..at least put a SS, convince with smth, you just spread words, that's all.

@Raven3, search rake normal, not from prowl, not with any source of increase dmg.
Everywhere I post must be players who don't cooperate..I don't have feral to make for my own...take my example Tianton, everytime when someone post for DH, I test it and bring another post with SS and so on, not just spread words, let everyone put words, just for posting...

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/sylvanas/mostfckedup

Tianton · Posted: 26-09-2017, 18:59:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

U are the only guy there, that is talking shit

"Yes, yes. Sometimes people make mistakes..you can close both if you want,"

Tested every feral ability, and compared them to screen's that i had from retail, and there was a little diff in dmg (that small u cant rly fix it)

By the way, why u are not so active in fell barrage post

?

Magicqtz · Posted: 26-09-2017, 19:07:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tianton wrote:

U are the only guy there, that is talking shit

"Yes, yes. Sometimes people make mistakes..you can close both if you want,"

Tested every feral ability, and compared them to screen's that i had from retail, and there was a little diff in dmg (that small u cant rly fix it)

By the way, why u are not so active in fell barrage post

?

Why you off-topic? Immature people. Fel barrage is posted by my friend and also by me, w8 to fix, it's hard to understand to wait..I'm not the developer here.

Put the SS's what you tested (blizzard and freakz to see everyone, to cooperate...)!!!!!!!!! You just say everytime, I've tested every ability, that's all, I don't see nothing...you understand this language english?
Im not talking shit, I said that I've made a mistake, your brain can't procces that..and tested again tear and flesh with Raven and we saw smth wierd at this trait.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/sylvanas/mostfckedup

Garn · Last edited by Garn on 27-09-2017, 12:58:35; edited 1 time in total

No more drama here. This will stay locked until a dev will come with a conclusion to this topic.

Posting a new BUG REPORT has to follow the template you get when opening a new topic or it can be instantly rejected.

Freakz Lich King 25H

raven3 · Posted: 26-09-2017, 19:15:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Magicqtz wrote:

@Raven3, search rake normal, not from prowl, not with any source of increase dmg.

It's kinda hard because everyone was playing with bloodtalons so prctically all rake dots throughout arenas were either from stealth or with bloodtalons increase (or both). Or I can't figure out what tick is rake and what is rip

Will try to find a video in which the druid had brutal slash. That would eliminate bloodtalons from the equation..

Ok.
So I found something.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XMD94bgTJX4:

At ~31:09 the feral applies rake without any increase on the mw monk. (which doesn;t have the 10% decrease in dmg from trait on himself)
After that you can look for the damage. It's constant at ~ 28300 - 28500
Feral has 2.6M HP with sparring (so doesn't have the 10% increase in health) - you can see that at 30:33