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[FIXED] [General][All] Energy units GCD - Haste v2

 
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Post Posted: 10-06-2020, 02:37:20 [Valuable post] | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=61304

Bug description: Haste should not benefit agility energy classes. At the moment it does on freakz.

Proof from retail:


So I went on retail made a level 1 WW monk who has GCD 1 sec.

However there are factors like letancy, lag spikes, spellbatching that may affect the outcome of the actual 1 sec. So the results may wary within ( 0.850;1.150 ) GCD gap according to SimCraft values:



Here is a demo:



Here you can see 2 tiger palm used and there is 0.917 GCD between the two spells. My Monk is level 1 and sure thing has no gear.

a.) Here is a statement from Blaine community manager of most popular pvp/pve guide website in the whole world:

"Monks have a 1 second GCD, similar to other agility melee DPS. IT'S UNAFFECTED BY HASTE, but cooldowns of abilities are. Problem is, Haste is still terrible for WW. As for the rest of your question, yeah, RSK is cast early so it's up again ASAP. See above for the ideal opener use."



https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/35638-ww-monk-beginner-questions/

b.) Also GCD formula from WoWAnalyzer:

1. Non energy class like Marksmanship hunter has a BASE GCD = 1500ms

2. Energy class like Wind Walker monk has STATIC GCD = 1000ms that isn't effected by haste.



BASE GCD has minimum and maximum value while STATIC GCD only has 1 value that is indicated in spell database as you can see below:



You can see haste can only be used with BASE GCD via the formula below:




https://github.com/WoWAnalyzer/WoWAnalyzer/tree/5fb159988ce7da6b41f7e26531736dd87040f02d

c.) An official addon from 7.3 called DejaCharacterStats also points out the obvious:


1. function casterGCD() is a formula for GCD calculation for classes that benefit from haste

2. It points out that out of all casters only druid in cat form is the one who has static gcd = 1

3. It points out that classes that use intellect, strenght or are hunters or deamonhunters should have their gcd reduced by haste.

4. Anything else is gcd = 1.




And to put your scepticism aside I wasn't the one who made this addon. You can download it from curse: https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/dejacharacterstats

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I've been a GM and a class mod for few servers before migrating here. This is the first server I've encountered who actually thinks that haste should benefit any spec/pet GCD.

Now I know bow posted some gamepedia links which he btw misinterpreted. That isn't even a blue post to begin with like he claimed it was. Non of the external links work from the gamepedia. Not to mention I can literally erase and amend the whole page if I want to. I am a member there.

Is TrinityCore analysis GCD formula or an official statement from Community Manager of Icy Veins who actually get paid for assisting and writing reports for wow community is enough to prove that haste should not benefit energy units?



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Post Posted: 30-06-2020, 16:09:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Post Posted: 11-12-2020, 12:22:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Issue is now fixed and moved to Fixed Bugs.

Trello Card Link : https://trello.com/c/Qrj0jfcW/199-energy-classes-pets-gcd-haste-scaling

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