[FIXED] [Priest][Discipline] Power Word : Radiance Smart Heal

[captkkomodor]

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=194509&&name=power-word-radiance
Bug description: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=194509&&name=power-word-radiance Doesnt Act as a Smart Heal, it should be act like a smart heal on 7.2.5, and as the tooltip said, "heals target and 4 injured allies"
Proof: Its very easy to test, but if you want me to post a screenshot i will be happy to do so

Power Word Radiance is a core spell, and very important for a discipline healing toolkit

[lxdrakolx]

I also confirmed it does not prioritize injured players.

[Ein]

in this post on wowpedia radiance is not included in smart healing spell
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Smart_spell

this post on blizzard forum say:
"Power Word: Radiance
Currently this will heal your target "and their two nearest allies"
I think this ability should be a "smarter heal." It should heal your target and then heal two allies with the lowest health that are within X distance of your target. Otherwise this is just an over heal button."
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747807090

this bug report need some other proof

[captkkomodor]

Ligma wrote:

abbasgon wrote: [REJECTED] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/478943408035987458/567094058611113985/WoWScrnShot_041519_013756.jpg it work well Lmao, first of all its not your call to reject a report. Second, the problem is the heal should PRIORITIZE INJURED PLAYERS, not just 4 random players. Yes it is obvious it is healing 4 additional targets but does it act as a smart heal or not? Smart heal means the spell will try to heal players with lowest amount of health, in case you didnt know. Read reports more carefully next time.

I do understand how smart heal works, but the fact is the spell doesnt prioritized injured player, the spell only heal any nearby player just like what i does on 7.1.5, on 7.2.5 however it changed to act like a smart heal, in case you dont know



Update @ 15-04-2019, 08:06:03

https://www.wowhead.com/forums&&topic=263250

Opinion Section Number 3

"3) Making PWR a smart heal is a good idea because too often when you need to heal a specific part of the raid your PWR applies Atonement based only on distance from the initial target which results in people at full HP getting Atonement and people who need healing not. This requires subsequent PWR cast(s) and is burning mana. Reducing the cast time of PWR by 0.5 seconds is also reasonable because even now casting PWR takes too long and it does not feel like a POWER word… However, the two additional changes I strongly disagree with are(!):"

you can also read more explanation about the patch change here, clearly it states about the change of Power Word Radiance

https://www.wowhead.com/news=263077/patch-7-2-5-ptr-build-23993-cage-helm-priest-brewmaster-updates-magni-voice-over

[Elvenking]

The spell was scripted as smart heal in 7.1.5 and what i saw it still works like that.
Just there are now 5 instead of 3 atonements and somehow the 2 new ones act wierdly in many situations.
Probably some mechanics still just use 3 instead of all 5 targets, but that's just an assumption.

Maybe you can screen a situation where it bugs as i even recorded a whole raid once and it never happend to me there.

[captkkomodor]

This is very easy to reproduce, you just need 6 people and get someone to lowest health than the other

https://imgur.com/a/X4Hd4G2

as you can see on the screenshot, im the lowest health on the party, and then i cast power word radiance on hunter (Rhouku) and the power word radiance/attonement doesnt apply to me, it means that the radiance doesnt prioritize the most injured allies within 30 yard, but instead its only applies attonement to 4 nearby players which you can see as the following picture below the first one. the power word radiance should apply to me because im the most injured player in the party.

I hope this helps

Thanks

[Ein]

captkkomodor wrote:

https://www.wowhead.com/forums&&topic=263250 Opinion Section Number 3 "3) Making PWR a smart heal is a good idea because too often when you need to heal a specific part of the raid your PWR applies Atonement based only on distance from the initial target which results in people at full HP getting Atonement and people who need healing not. This requires subsequent PWR cast(s) and is burning mana. Reducing the cast time of PWR by 0.5 seconds is also reasonable because even now casting PWR takes too long and it does not feel like a POWER word… However, the two additional changes I strongly disagree with are(!):" you can also read more explanation about the patch change here, clearly it states about the change of Power Word Radiance https://www.wowhead.com/news=263077/patch-7-2-5-ptr-build-23993-cage-helm-priest-brewmaster-updates-magni-voice-over

you are right, my bad
here other proof:
"Radiance used to apply to 3 targets and be a proximity based dumb-smart heal. This means it did not take into account things like hp% into account when spreading and prioritized the closest targets without atonement.
It now spreads atonement to 5 targets and is an extremely smart heal, prioritizing lower HP targets regardless of range. "

Spoiler:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759558259

"1.) We still don't have a smart AoE heal. Our atonements aren't going to go out to the people who are going to take the most damage, whereas a Holy Priest gets to cast Prayer of Healing and it'll automatically seek out 5 who need healing. Same with almost every other healing spell.
Actually you've got that backwards. Sigma said Radiance will most likely be a true-smart heal (not only pick injured targets over full health, smartly pick the lowest health targets),"

Spoiler:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20754415325?page=4

only one explanation about smart healing:
"Patch 6.0.2 (2014-10-14): Smart heals will now randomly pick any injured target within range instead of always picking the most injured target. Priority will still be given to players over pets. "

Spoiler:

https://it.wowhead.com/spell=154036/smart-heal-change

[Barnacle]

As Elvenking said, only the two last atonements applied behave weirdly, but I want to add to that that this is not consistent and thus extremely hard to test, as there is always a chance your atonement will land on a random player who is injured, while it could've also "picked" another random full health player.
The notion that smart heals should only affect random injured players when there are enough of them is correct, but the issue right now is that even full health players will get healed sometimes when you use Radiance.
This behaviour is not unique to Power Word: Radiance as some other AOE healing spells have the same problem.
Another problem is that warlock pets can sometimes get healed or get atonement aswell even though there are players who should always get it first (not even sure whether aoe heals should ever heal warlock pets).

The topic will stay open for a bit as I try to test it some more with more people so as to determine what the cause is exactly.


XXX Barney

[captkkomodor]

im sure that right now that all of the atonements comes from radiance behave wierdly, and not sometimes, this happens everytimes, power word: radiance just heal random people around without prioritized injured target over full HP target,

This is a big deal for discipline priest, becasue of this bug, atonements just spread to random player all over the place, we dont have exact control of spreading it, in result to a big hps loss due to overheall

in my opinion, with this wierd interaction between radiance and atonements plus our main golden trait is currently bugged, disc suffer for like 15-30% overall healing loss
i main discipline for a long time and i spent 95% of my playtime with the spec and i know what im talking about

thank you very much

[captkkomodor]

well "too bad for mythic" maybe its a little dramatic , but yes i found recently that this bug only happens randomly for the last 2 atonements, but sometimes its working properly (at least in what i see), i hope i can get myself a proof, or maybe someone else

btw in my opinion only our Golden Traits bug that makes the spec really uncomfortable right now where we lost around 20% healing because of it (1% increase healing per ally with atonement where in raid we usually have 20 people so it means 20%), which is a quite big of a deal, the other 2 are fairly minor, well i just hope for the best and it will get fixed soon

[lanstyler]

Hi i totally agree with captkkomodor and would love to see this spell fixed.
The random behaviour is noticable in a raid environment:
Here are some gifs from NH hc fights, in all three cases I target the boss and cast PW:R on myself. So one atonement gets spread on myself (Grp1-2), all others behave randomly.

1: [img]https://imgur.com/a/gvJRVlq[/img]

Injured allies: Grp1-1 (has atonement), Grp3-2, Grp3-4 (has atnonement), Grp3-5
Atonement: Grp1-2, Grp1-3, Grp1-5, Grp2-5, Grp3-3

-> no matches
should be: Grp1-2 (because i cast on myself), Grp3-2, Grp3-5 + random
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2: [img]https://imgur.com/a/6nmp5Cn[/img]

Injured allies: Grp1-2, Grp3-2, Grp3-3, Grp3-5
Atonement: Grp1-2, Grp1-5, Grp3-1, Grp3-3, Grp4-1

-> only match is myself because i cast PW:R on myself.
should be: Grp1-2 (because i cast on myself), Grp3-2, Grp3-3, Grp3-5 + random
--------------

3: [img]https://imgur.com/a/ZmwbYyo[/img]

Injured allies: Grp1-2 (has atonement), Grp1-3, Grp1-4, Grp1-5, Grp2-5 (has atonement), Grp3-2, Grp3-4
Atonement: Grp-1-1, Grp1-2, Grp1-3, Grp1-5, Grp2-2

-> I get atonement because i cast it on myself, Grp2-5 doesn't get atnonement because he already has it - thats good; everything else is random
should be: Grp1-2 (because i cast on myself) and four of these: Grp1-3, Grp1-4, Grp1-5, Grp2-5, Grp3-2, Grp3-4

[Barnacle]

Confirmed, the atonements are sometimes not applied correctly ie. not on the person that is healed by radiance.

XXX Barney

[Shocker]

The main post was about smart heal mechanic. We did various changes to the smart heal mechanic, please see this topic for more info https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-All-Smart-Heal-mechanic-incorrect-target-priority-or-incorrect-targets-t564183.html

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