[FIXED] [PvE] Wrong HP of bosses and adds in dungeons

[Everdeen]

WoW Freakz link: -

Bug description: HP ( and maybe DMG aswell , i am not sure about this one because it's hard to check ) of the boss Archdruid Glaidalis from the dungeon Darkheart Thicket ( https://www.wow-freakz.com/npc_finder.php?npc=96512&&name=archdruid-glaidalis ) is higher than it was in retail 7.3.5 ( and i think this goes for more things, not only this boss ) . On Freakz 7.3.5 M24 non-tyranical week, the boss has 958M HP. On Retail 7.3.5, on M25 non-tyranical week boss had 874M HP , on M26 non-tyranical week boss had 961M HP . You can check the videos below to see boss HP ( before they pull ofc ) . Also , some adds from this dungeon have more HP aswell, for example Dreadsoul Ruiner ( https://www.wow-freakz.com/npc_finder.php?npc=95771&&name=dreadsoul-ruiner ), on M24 fort on freakz it has 153M HP, on retail M25 fort it has 140M HP. Pause the videos i linked below and you will see. You may say is not a big deal, but the difficulty of the keys increase by % , so base stats of monsters matter so much in high keys. Also the add Dreadsoul Poisoner ( https://www.wow-freakz.com/npc_finder.php?npc=101679&&name=dreadsoul-poisoner ) has more HP than retail. I can't check all the adds and bosses from all dungeons, but this is just a " starter " . You should check all of them.

Proof: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6yGov-xV-Jc:



https://youtube.com/watch?v=qqbbT6CNb14:

[mamadnica]

There are similar reports regarding this matter which no GM/DEV respond to them yet.

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[Ein]

there is a trello card about add and boss hp
https://trello.com/c/lafNG9WG/542-legion-dungeons-mythic-health-base
tester are working on it

[tunito]

SEAT 22 same problem , it seems in all duns.
IMG: https://i.imgur.com/5O9Qa5q.jpg

u can check here HP of boss in retail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbcQeQB_dzE

[Floorpov]

Ein wrote:

there is a trello card about add and boss hp https://trello.com/c/lafNG9WG/542-legion-dungeons-mythic-health-base tester are working on it

I have made this for everyone is working on this report: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VxM178TgR8Fc24L6CX2Qm49s1MRJcg5NKCkBCYA979U/edit#gid=0
Should be actually faster compare HP bosses from retail to Freakz.

Thanks for whoever is working on fixing dungeons

https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/floorpov
https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/floorpovjr

[zarathos]

I've seen the spreadsheet, is very complete. I will update the HP values using the information. Could you make a spreadsheet with trashmob hp?

[Floorpov]

zarathos wrote:

I've seen the spreadsheet, is very complete. I will update the HP values using the information. Could you make a spreadsheet with trashmob hp?

Warcraftlogs is actually a good database where compare certain mobs HP (like bosses). Unfortunately logs are only trackings what mobs they've played, so checking mobs per mobs is actually impossible.
Is actually doable for most of the mobs, not for all mobs.

https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/floorpov
https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/floorpovjr

[Metabolism]

@zarathos I think a great choice for dungeon mobs is Method Dungeon Tools , u can check at any level and compare with the keys in freakz.

[Coxman]

hello,


can you please check my report :

https://forum.wow-freakz.com/EOA-Wrath-of-Azshara-t586986.html


thanks

[Midius]

After killing any mythic+ boss, you can use Details or any other DPS addon to get the total damage done to the boss, and compare it to the value that was displayed in its unit frame since it might be just a visual issue (as it was in the past).

The base HP of the Archdruid on mythic+ is probably correct (88.813.049 on freakz vs 88.813.051 on retail), to view it use this command:

Code:

/run print(UnitHealthMax("target"))

while targeting a boss. Exact values for all mobs are indeed available in the 7.3.5 old version of the Mythic Dungeon Tools addon by Method.

It would also be useful to show us the tooltip of the Challenger's Might buff since the boss might be considered as a Fortified mob by mistake.

I will run a key tomorrow to see if this is an issue.

[Floorpov]

Midius wrote:

After killing any mythic+ boss, you can use Details or any other DPS addon to get the total damage done to the boss, and compare it to the value that was displayed in its unit frame since it might be just a visual issue (as it was in the past). The base HP of the Archdruid on mythic+ is probably correct (88.813.049 on freakz vs 88.813.051 on retail), to view it use this command: Code: /run print(UnitHealthMax("target")) while targeting a boss. Exact values for all mobs are indeed available in the 7.3.5 old version of the Mythic Dungeon Tools addon by Method. It would also be useful to show us the tooltip of the Challenger's Might buff since the boss might be considered as a Fortified mob by mistake. I will run a key tomorrow to see if this is an issue.

Archdruid base HP in mythic mode on retail is 50.6M not 88M.

Proof: https://i.imgur.com/KTHH9JB.png

https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/floorpov
https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/floorpovjr

[Midius]

Quote:

Archdruid base HP in mythic mode on retail is 50.6M not 88M. Proof: https://i.imgur.com/KTHH9JB.png

The bosses have different HP values in different patches! To see it for Darkheart Thicket for example, go to Warcraft Logs, and select Season 4, then Season 3, etc., you will see the value on Freakz (88m) for 7.3.5 patch, and smaller values for 7.3, 7.2.5, etc.

Update to my post above: I checked Hymdall on HoV level 9, his effective HP (appearing on Details!) is 231.73M, however the client shows him with 257.03M. It's just a visual bug, even if very annoying. Ask older players about it. I won't say more until the developers confirm it really is so.

Screenshots for this case

[Floorpov]

Midius wrote:

Quote: Archdruid base HP in mythic mode on retail is 50.6M not 88M. Proof: https://i.imgur.com/KTHH9JB.png The bosses have different HP values in different patches! To see it for Darkheart Thicket for example, go to Warcraft Logs, and select Season 4, then Season 3, etc., you will see the value on Freakz (88m) for 7.3.5 patch, and smaller values for 7.3, 7.2.5, etc. Update to my post above: I checked Hymdall on HoV level 9, his effective HP (appearing on Details!) is 231.73M, however the client shows him with 257.03M. It's just a visual bug, even if very annoying. Ask older players about it. I won't say more until the developers confirm it really is so. Screenshots for this case

That's why I actually think, talking about mythic 0 value is actually useless. There are not enough proof. What could be actually helpful is checking high keys HP bosses instead of mythic 0.

https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/floorpov
https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/floorpovjr

[Gushteru]

Midius wrote:

Quote: Archdruid base HP in mythic mode on retail is 50.6M not 88M. Proof: https://i.imgur.com/KTHH9JB.png The bosses have different HP values in different patches! To see it for Darkheart Thicket for example, go to Warcraft Logs, and select Season 4, then Season 3, etc., you will see the value on Freakz (88m) for 7.3.5 patch, and smaller values for 7.3, 7.2.5, etc. Update to my post above: I checked Hymdall on HoV level 9, his effective HP (appearing on Details!) is 231.73M, however the client shows him with 257.03M. It's just a visual bug, even if very annoying. Ask older players about it. I won't say more until the developers confirm it really is so. Screenshots for this case

Hymdall actually ends the fight at ~10% HP so the value is mostly right even in the game. The bugs with the HP shown being higher than the effective HP was not present this patch from what I have played.

[zarathos]

Fixed the bosses hp