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Post Posted: 10-11-2017, 09:44:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: Subterfuge
Bug description: Don;t give 3sec
Proof: Build 23420 was released to the PTR on January 18, 2017 and to Live on January 26, 2017. http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_7.1.5hotfix1
On March 23, 2017,7.2.0 the official release date was announced to be March 28, 2017 on the official site. http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_7.2.0
Garn VIDEO: Tyrants - Krosus (Mythic) - Assassination Rogue POV - 7.1.5 Published on Mar 28, 2017.(probl. he didn;t know 7.2 was live and he put 7.1.5?).
I RLY WANT TO HIT MY 2MIL BURST AGAIN -
More proof:
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20753685918
"Mar 19
(Edited)
Run subterfuge. When you vanish with the mantle and subterfuge you actually get 9 seconds of crit rather than 6."

Remember:Tokiomy post was about potion that cancel subterfuge not about how it should work with shoulders. U actually did what u wanted with that post(what garn told u) not what that player reported. Furthermore check dates before u even do such "nerfs".
1 Video BEFORE 7.2 NERF!
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Published on Feb 16, 2017.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ioMUnsSxCHA&t=205:

3:20. Also i think he explain in video if u wanna learn


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Post Posted: 10-11-2017, 10:55:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Confirmed


The ideea is that somebody post about this in and something was changed : https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Rogue-Buff-Master-assassin-s-initiative-disappears-after-prepot-t493897.html but the thing is that the change was made as its in 7.2+ where this works differemt

In 7.1.5 it should be like below

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20753685918 this is proof of how it should actually be so please fix it if you can because for now we are at a huge disadvantage

"Run subterfuge. When you vanish with the mantle and subterfuge you actually get 9 seconds of crit rather than 6."


And please don't think that this is a bug . This is how blizzard sync the item's passive with the subterfuge for 7.1.5 and in 7.2 they just removed their sync . But since we play in 7.1.5 we should be able to play with it

Also here https://youtube.com/watch?v=ioMUnsSxCHA:

: at 3:13 he confirms also that you have 6sec + 3 sec for subterfuge





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Post Posted: 10-11-2017, 12:33:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quiest1 wrote:
WoW Freakz spell link: Subterfuge
Bug description: Don;t give 3sec
Proof: Build 23420 was released to the PTR on January 18, 2017 and to Live on January 26, 2017. http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_7.1.5hotfix1
On March 23, 2017,7.2.0 the official release date was announced to be March 28, 2017 on the official site. http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_7.2.0
Garn VIDEO: Tyrants - Krosus (Mythic) - Assassination Rogue POV - 7.1.5 Published on Mar 28, 2017.(probl. he didn;t know 7.2 was live and he put 7.1.5?).
I RLY WANT TO HIT MY 2MIL BURST AGAIN -
More proof:
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20753685918
"Mar 19
(Edited)
Run subterfuge. When you vanish with the mantle and subterfuge you actually get 9 seconds of crit rather than 6."

Remember:Tokiomy post was about potion that cancel subterfuge not about how it should work with shoulders. U actually did what u wanted with that post(what garn told u) not what that player reported. Furthermore check dates before u even do such "nerfs".
1 Video BEFORE 7.2 NERF!
Nattle
Published on Feb 16, 2017.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ioMUnsSxCHA&t=205:

3:20. Also i think he explain in video if u wanna learn


IT seems that you don't really read my explanation and proof in that post and you guys continue to post a video of a guy who doesn't even have the shoulders.

I assure you that video was on 7.1.5 !

Go on https://www.wowprogress.com/guild/eu/twisting-nether/Tyr%C3%A2nts/rating.tier19, and you will FIND the exact DATE and TIME the raid was done like I said in my previous post.

"Krosus Mythic
Killed Mar 27, 2017 19:39:58 GMT "

7.2 release date was on 28.

On top of that check this and tell me how many of the top Assassination from retail on 7.1.5 were running Subterfuge?



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Post Posted: 10-11-2017, 12:36:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

while you're at it tell us how you make envenom do 2.4mil crits at 888 ilvl lul when rogues on retail couldnt go above 1.7mil at 900 ilvl lulululu xD
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Post Posted: 10-11-2017, 12:39:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Garn , i don't want to offence you by any means . But when a community who plays rogue bring you proof and say that there should be 9 sec then its something you should think about it.

I'm pointing this again

in 7.1.5 the sholder boosts the critical for 6 sec + subterfuge if used
in 7.2 it boosts it for 5 sec .

In the video which u shared it has 5 sec so its 7.2





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Post Posted: 10-11-2017, 12:42:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

First of all. Yep nightstalker vanish+ env it;s by faar better than subterfuge BECAUSE THEY HAVE 4P SET. Sadly our srv doesn;t have nh open because i would play nightstalker too. On your logs u bring proof of smth totally different from what we have now currently on freakz. 2nd my video has one of the best rogues in world and u tell me he say bullshit? U don;t even have a rogue yet but u can complain about mechanics easly. 3rd u can check my vanish post i just did and in case sand decide to reject this, maybe that will bring enough proof to give us 6sec+9sec instead of 2x 9 sec. -. Also personally, i hit so much with env because i have 2 mastery trinkets 895 ilvl. They were impossible to be obtained during 7.1.5. Mastery improve env and also improve ago so 2x benefit, that;s where my dmg comes from. Stop bullshit about numbers when u don;t have a clue about rogue, Mr.Pinocchio Evreiesc

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Post Posted: 10-11-2017, 12:49:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Proof being what? I ask for a specific video with a rogue on retail on patch 7.1.5 and had Mantle+Subterfuge and you will have it your way, lets not make this personal and actually discuss with relevant proof, and NO a comment from a forum will not be a proof since it contradicts MRROBOT and my video proof.

. What you are saying that it lasts 5 sec on 7.2 is TRUE. In my video it lasts 6 second ( you will always see 5 seconds on buff when the full duration is 6 seconds) so its 7.1.5.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=HjxmsP0y5rQ:



Quiest1 wrote:
. 2nd my video has one of the best rogues in world and u tell me he say bullshit?


That's why on that video the top comment says that most of what he says is wrong and has no idea what he is talking about?



I ask you again stop taking this personally and start contributing to your statement with proof rather than stupid replies.



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Post Posted: 10-11-2017, 13:15:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

What is so hard to understand, on blizzard, if you used subterfuge you got 6 seconds of 100% crit after you leave stealth and 9 seconds after you vanish


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Post Posted: 10-11-2017, 13:16:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

alleex wrote:
What is so hard to understand, on blizzard, if you used subterfuge you should get 6 seconds of 100% crit after you leave stealth and 9 seconds after you vanish


Yes but only if u run with subterfuge



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Post Posted: 10-11-2017, 13:25:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Actually we get 6 sec on OPEN and 9 from vanish with or without subterfuge. Only thing that matters for us is to prove we have another 3 on start with subterfuge and u to disagree that until we Find concret proof

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Post Posted: 10-11-2017, 15:18:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Garn, u are wrong about this one. On all forums i looked up is says that if u have subterfuge u get 9 sec of crit after you vanish. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20753685918

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Post Posted: 10-11-2017, 17:06:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1433&&v=4o_lIeUH_4Y
This guy is telling us wrong stuff also? Min 22:50. He refers specially to patch 7.1.5, and he gives us example about the combo that most rogues used in 7.1.5 with subterfuge. Probl u see most of guides with nightstalker because of the 4 set bonus with shoulders that represent a bigger bonus.


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