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Post Posted: 17-10-2011, 18:33:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=18562&&name=swiftmend https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=774&&name=rejuvenation
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Mult prea mult heal
Dovada / Proof: http://postimage.org/gallery/51pzv9rzc/

Stiu, un singur bug report/topic, dar spellurile astea sunt legate intre ele ( Consumes a Rejuvenation or Regrowth effect on a friendly target to instantly heal the target for 1)

Acolo e o galerie de poze facute cu un druid cu SP 5478 si mastery 597 (tipu era feral inainte)
Rejuvenation --> Swiftmend : 26161 heal ( non-crit)

Cei de la elitistjerks au facut un excel foarte fain ( chit ca e pentru 4.2) in care iti treci specul, numerele, iteme etc. si iti calculeaza pentru fiecare spell heal/tick, heal total etc.
http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t110354-resto_cataclysm_4_2_a/#TreeCalcs

Eu cu stats de la druid nu am scos mai mult de 17k Swiftmend . Problema e ca Swiftmend e bazat pe Rejuvenation --> Rejuvenation da si el mai mult heal. Stiu ca Mastery la Resto Druid a fost schimbat in 4.2, dar noul mastery nu explica diferenta de 10k la heal.

http://www.threadmeters.com/v-1Y0A/Looking_at_Renew_in_406_vs_Rejuv_Math/

Nu inteleg de unde un druid cu 5.5k SP si 597 mastery scoate 6.2k / tick Rejuv.

Inainte sa ma apuc sa fac posturi pentru celelalte spelluri ( pentru ca si la celelalte spelluri sunt diferente mari), sa vina un druid cu argumente ca swiftmend ( si in consecinta rejuvenation ) da heal corect.
Orice calcule as face nu imi explic cum se poate ajunge la 6k/tick la SP ala.


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Post Posted: 17-10-2011, 22:34:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
pot confirma chestia cu prea mult heal in arene un druid isi da 40 % heal din 1 swiftmend

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Post Posted: 17-10-2011, 22:56:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
habar n am ce patch e sau ce gear are druidu

https://youtube.com/watch?v=OFK91pSvPBY:



cam la fel da cum se da si aici.


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Post Posted: 17-10-2011, 23:13:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
vexwow1 wrote:
habar n am ce patch ce ce gear are druidu

https://youtube.com/watch?v=OFK91pSvPBY:



cam la fel da cum se da si aici.


Videoul e postat la 11 februarie - ma gandesc ori 4.0.3 ori 4.0.6. Singurele schimbari in 4.0.6(lansat 8 februarie) ce ar afecta swiftmend sunt:
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Symbiosis (Mastery) benefit from mastery increased by approximately 16%.

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Nature's Bounty no longer affects Swiftmend, but now has a new effect. When the druid has Rejuvenation on 3 or more targets, the cast time of Nourish is reduced by 10/20/30%.


Tocmai ca cel din video da 17.6k Swiftmend( minut 1:41) si 25.5k critical( minut 1:04) tot cu full raid buffs si gear, iar druid resto cu 5.5k SP, 0 buffs si 0 glyphs resto si da 26k normal, nu crit. Tinand cont ca e la Nefarian, pariez ca e full epics sau aproape full epics.

M-am dus acum durotar, primul druid resto gasit. 31.7k si uita-te la gear:


Nu se da la fel si pe aici. Diferenta e imensa!


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Post Posted: 17-10-2011, 23:32:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
If you do the math:

Our "hero" has:
5748 Spellpower
597 Mastery
3 points on Improved Rejuvenation
3 points on Genesis.


Swiftmend
(BaseHealing+Coefficient*TotalSP)*HealMult*(1.25+0.05*Imp_Rejuv+0.02*Genesis+HarmMastery)

(5229+0.536*9330.16)*1.04*(1.25+0.05*3+0.02*3+0.141625)=17039 Heal on paper. Same thing ingame = 26161.

Download this if you want to make calculations.


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Post Posted: 17-10-2011, 23:52:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/wowscrnshot101811003208.jpg/ Swiftmend makes ya pro.
Also Rejuv http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/wowscrnshot101811003310.jpg/
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Post Posted: 18-10-2011, 00:03:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Sper sa gasiti problema druidu e bugat 100% in legatura cu healu , cu 0 resil te tine in spate pe warr si nici nu ramane oom ca e sm3ch3r.

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Post Posted: 18-10-2011, 00:14:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Azwraithz wrote:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/wowscrnshot101811003208.jpg/ Swiftmend makes ya pro.
Also Rejuv http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/wowscrnshot101811003310.jpg/


62.9k non-crit pvp gear vs 26k crit fullraid buffs&pve gear..
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aodzilla wrote:
Sper sa gasiti problema druidu e bugat 100% in legatura cu healu , cu 0 resil te tine in spate pe warr si nici nu ramane oom ca e sm3ch3r.

Asa e, http://oi54.tinypic.com/308vfp4.jpg
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aodzilla wrote:
Sper sa gasiti problema druidu e bugat 100% in legatura cu healu , cu 0 resil te tine in spate pe warr si nici nu ramane oom ca e sm3ch3r.

cum sa nu ramana fara mana?


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Post Posted: 18-10-2011, 06:52:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
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vexwow1 wrote:


M-am dus acum durotar, primul druid resto gasit. 31.7k si uita-te la gear:


Nu se da la fel si pe aici. Diferenta e imensa!


nush cum a reusit el healu ala dar eu am 8k SP 1300 Mastery si dau intre 33-34k
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Post Posted: 18-10-2011, 08:48:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
spell power 6588; crit chance 14%; mastery 9.78
heals:
rejuve 7.9-8.3k /tick
regrowth 2.5k/tick 3.5k crit
swiftmend cu regrowth 23k; cu rejuve 14-32k, 48k critical

dovezi:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9397/rejuve.jpg
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1732/regrowthswiftmend.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/321/rejuveswiftmendcrit.jpg
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/3381/rejuveswiftmendnoncrit1.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9796/rejuveswiftmendnoncrit2.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2879/rejuveswiftmendnoncrit3.jpg
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Post Posted: 18-10-2011, 10:52:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Azwraithz wrote:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/wowscrnshot101811003208.jpg/ Swiftmend makes ya pro.
Also Rejuv http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/wowscrnshot101811003310.jpg/


Deci te rog frumos ... oricare dintre playerii de pe server poate veni sa se planga de chestia asta , dar in niciun caz tu ! Nu uita din cauza cator buguri ai ajuns tu in top 5 la 2v2 ! Cand chimera dadea cu mult peste 48k nu ai venit sa plangi pe forum , deci te rog stai chill !
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Post Posted: 18-10-2011, 11:09:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
suckyourself wrote:
Azwraithz wrote:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/wowscrnshot101811003208.jpg/ Swiftmend makes ya pro.
Also Rejuv http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/wowscrnshot101811003310.jpg/


Deci te rog frumos ... oricare dintre playerii de pe server poate veni sa se planga de chestia asta , dar in niciun caz tu ! Nu uita din cauza cator buguri ai ajuns tu in top 5 la 2v2

Vad ca acum cu "bugurile " de care spui,reparate,tot nu am scazut din top 5 deci nu vad unde e problema ta,probabil simplul fapt ca si tu faci arene cu druid resto http://armory.freakz.ro/team-info.xml?r=Genesis&&t=QUE+PLOX .
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Post Posted: 18-10-2011, 11:37:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)
Heal-ul Resto druidu-lui este oarecum destul de mare fata de cat ar trebui este spell coeff crescut la majoritatea spellurilor dar exagerat la swiftmend/rejuvenation
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