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Post Posted: 19-01-2012, 11:47:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ESTE DEJA UN BUG REPORT PENTRU ELEMENTAL MASTERY AICI:
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Shaman-Mastery-pe-elemental-Bug-t126256.html
DAR CONSIDER CA ESTE INCOMPLET SI FACUT GRESIT (DECI IN CONSECINTA DE CAUZA DACA LUATI IN CONSIDERARE DOVEZILE SOLIDE ADUSE DE MINE) NU DATI DUPLICATE SI NU OCOLITI POSTUL ACESTA CARE ESTE BINE FACUT/STRUCTURAT. MULTUMESC ANTICIPAT !

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77222 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description:
CALCULAREA SPELURILOR CARE POT PROCUI DIN ELEMENTAL OVERLORD SI MAI EXACT DAMAGE-UL LOR ESTE GRESITA

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=403 (wowhead link) > https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77222 (wowhead link) > https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=45284 (wowhead link)
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=421 (wowhead link) > https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77222 (wowhead link) > https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=45297 (wowhead link)
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=51505 (wowhead link) > https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77222 (wowhead link) > https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77451 (wowhead link)

Dovada / Proof:


ERAM RESTO IN POZA (SE VEDE DUPA BINDS)

DAMAGE-UL INITIAL AL SPELULUI CASTAT NU ESTE INREGISTRAT IN COMBAT LOG CA FIIND PROC DIN ELEMENTAL OVERLOAD.
ACEST SHAMAN DIN POZA DE MAI SUS LA SECUNDA ....19 MI-A DAT LB (NU A CRITAT PT.CA SPAMAM CLEANSE PE MINE) DAR A AVUT LOC ELEMENTAL OVERLOAD LA HITUL LUI DE 7365
ELEMENTAL OVERLOAD A FOST DE 5082
MASTERY LA ELEMENTAL SHAMAN MERGE INCORECT PENTRU CA ITI CALCULEAZA UNDEVA LA 68-69% DAMAGE DIN SPELUL INITIAL.
(DACA CALCULAM 75% DIN DAMAGE-UL INITIAL) NICI MACAR VALOAREA ACEASTA NU O PASTREAZA.

CU TOATE CA ELEMENTAL OVERLOAD NU INFLUENTEAZA DIRECT DAMAGE-UL FINAL AL SPELULUI DUPA CUM SE POATE VEDEA IN TOOLTIPURILE DE PE WOWHEAD

ELEMENTAL OVERLOAD MODIFICA BASE DAMAGE SI ATAT DUPA CUM SE POATE VEDEA MAI JOS DIN LINKURILE SPELURILOR MODIFICATE DE PE WOWHEAD.
DUPA CE ELEMENTAL OVERLOAD ARE LOC SI MODIFICA BASE DAMAGE AL SPELULUI TOTI COEFICIENTII DIN SPELL POWER / TALENTELE SUNT CALCULATI SI ADAUGATI LA DAMAGE-UL DAT DE SPELL

ESTE NORMAL (SI A FOST CREAT CU CAP ACEST ELEMENTAL OVERLOAD) DACA AR FI CALCULAT 75% DAMAGE DIN SPELUL DAT (EL AVAND SANSA DE CRIT) ATUNCI AR FI AJUNS LA CRITURI PE ELEMENTAL OVERLOAD MAI MARI DECAT PE SPELUL INITIAL DIN CARE A PROCUIT MASTERY-UL.
EXEMPLU:
LB DA CRIT 30K > ARE LOC ELEMENTAL OVERLOAD (SA ZICEM 75%) ADICA 22500 > DA CRIT > LB DIN MASTERY 45000K DAMAGE
(CLAR CONTEXTUL DE MAI SUS ESTE UN EXEMPLU CARE NU ARE LOC INGAME SI NICI NU AR TREBUI SA APARA)

LA NOI PE SERVER BUGUL ESTE CA ELEMENTAL OVERLOAD NU DA CRIT SI ESTE CALCULAT DIRECT CA DAMAGE DIN VALOARE SPELULUI INITIAL NU DIN BASE DAMAGE ASTFEL SCADE BURST-UL / DPS-UL SI FACE ACEST SPEC LA SHAMAN FOARTE SLAB (NU VEZI ELEMENTAL PE SERVER DECAT FOARTE RAR SI AIA SARACII FULL EPIX NU SCOT DPS NICI CAT UN DRUID BALANCE IMBRACAT IN VERZI SAU ALBASTRE)

SE VEDE FOARTE CLAR DIN LINKURILE WOWHEAD CUM MASTERY LA ELEMENTAL INFLUENTEAZA (BASE SPELL DAMAGE DUPA CE ARE LOC SANSA DE ELEMENTAL OVERLOAD) NEAVAND NICI UN EFECT ASUPRA DAMAGE-ULUI FINAL DAT DE SPELL PENTRU CA DACA AR INFLUENTA SI AR FI CALCULAT DIN DAMAGE-UL FINAL LA CRIT AR DA MAI MULT DECAT DA SPELUL.

DE ACEEA ELEMENTAL OVERLOAD NU FACE DECAT SA REDUCA BASE SPELL DAMAGE LA 75% SI DUPA APLICA TALENTE/SPELL POWER COEFFICIENTS/SANSA DE CRIT
TOCMAI PENTRU A EVITA APARITIA DE CRITURI MAI MARI DECAT SPELUL INITIAL.

EXEMPLU COMENTARIILE DE LA
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77222 (wowhead link)

"Chain Lightning + this proc = Most badass thing I've ever seen in WoW."

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=45284 (wowhead link)
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=45297 (wowhead link)



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Post Posted: 19-01-2012, 13:57:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

in plus overloadul NU BENEFICIAZA ABSOLUT DELOC DIN TALENTELE SHAMANULUI, de aici ajungem ca

overloadul de lava burst: nu are 100% crit chance, nu are crit damage marit
overloadul de light bolt/chain light: nu adauga stackuri la light shield

de aici iarasi scade extrem de mult dps-ul shamanului, mai ales in pve
(in mod normal in bl trebuie sa prinzi cel putin 4 fulminationuri daca ti se activeaza trinketul de la valiona, la noi daca prinzi 2 esti imba pew pew z0r)

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Post Posted: 25-05-2012, 20:40:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Post Posted: 28-05-2012, 09:52:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

postat 19-01-2012 => today 31.05.2012 => ?


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Post Posted: 16-06-2012, 08:56:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

face`ti ceva in privinta bugului ..... yo joc pvp elemental si crit mai mare de 30k nu am prins niciodata chiar daca targetul era full pve si cloth si aveam heroism pe mine + bufuri de +crit din mancare si flask . Din cauza asta in 2v2 joc mai mult resto ca nu se merita elemental desi am full gear - si mai sunt multe chestii dc nu merg elementali in arena ?


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Post Posted: 21-06-2012, 21:38:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

frate nu merge deloc overloadu trb sa ai sansa ca la un spel sa mai dai unu identic insa cu dmg mai mic....ceea ce nu ai sa vezi niciodata.... si la 17 mastery cat am trb sa dau macar 1 din 10

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Post Posted: 22-06-2012, 14:48:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

la capitolul chance to proc merge perfect, nu merge bine in schimb la capitolul spell benefit si benefit from talents.
un exemplu, dai 45k-50k lava burst (cu flame shock pe boss) si overloadul pt lava burst da decat 7k noncrit.
sau ... dai 10 lightning bolts (ai avea sansa pt fiecare parca de 60% sa iti mai puna un lightning orb prin rolling thunder) si sa zicem ca toate cele 10 casts procuiesc pt rolling thunder dar si ca procuiesc prin elemental overload (un caz dus la extrem) cele 10 overloaduri la lightning bolt, nu procuiesc deloc pt rolling thunder.

de aceea mastery este bugged pe elemental

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stefangeles wrote:
face`ti ceva in privinta bugului ..... yo joc pvp elemental si crit mai mare de 30k nu am prins niciodata chiar daca targetul era full pve si cloth si aveam heroism pe mine + bufuri de +crit din mancare si flask . Din cauza asta in 2v2 joc mai mult resto ca nu se merita elemental desi am full gear - si mai sunt multe chestii dc nu merg elementali in arena ?


faptul ca nu prinzi crit mai mare de 30k , nu are treaba ca targetul e in cloth sau nu, tine pur de spell power-ul tau, de talente, si de rotatie, si de resilul targetului si alte spelluri prezente pe el (de defence)

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Post Posted: 28-06-2012, 10:48:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

se uita cineva si pe aici?
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Post Posted: 09-07-2012, 13:58:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

inca e bugged...-




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Post Posted: 09-07-2012, 23:32:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

poate dupa ce baga inca 1 boss si au spus ca se apuca de pvp spells...poate asta o sa fie primu reparat...

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May someone explain me in english, what exactly is the bug? -
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Post Posted: 11-07-2012, 03:19:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

neither of the elemental overload spell clones benefit from the shamans talents, spells or effects, therefore the lava burst overload doesent have 100% crit chance on flame shocked targets, and doesent get the bonus from lava surge talent, and light bolt and chain light overloads dont get the efect from rolling thunder talent, therefore they dont give lightning shield stacks, for the fulmination, and furthermore, they dont influence the feedback talent, the one that decreases elemental mastery's cd.

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Post Posted: 27-07-2012, 14:25:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Motionz wrote:
in plus overloadul NU BENEFICIAZA ABSOLUT DELOC DIN TALENTELE SHAMANULUI, de aici ajungem ca

overloadul de lava burst: nu are 100% crit chance, nu are crit damage marit
overloadul de light bolt/chain light: nu adauga stackuri la light shield

de aici iarasi scade extrem de mult dps-ul shamanului, mai ales in pve
(in mod normal in bl trebuie sa prinzi cel putin 4 fulminationuri daca ti se activeaza trinketul de la valiona, la noi daca prinzi 2 esti imba pew pew z0r)


confirm, spelurile de la overload nu beneficiaza de talente, pur si simplu da 75 % din dmg-ul spelului initial (cu spellpower) si niciodata nu da crit (nici macar overloadu de la lava burst ). Chian lighning si lighning bolt din overload nu adauga stacuri ceea ce face imposibil sa pastrezi un dps cat de cat constant

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face`ti ceva in privinta bugului ..... yo joc pvp elemental si crit mai mare de 30k nu am prins niciodata chiar daca targetul era full pve si cloth si aveam heroism pe mine + bufuri de +crit din mancare si flask . Din cauza asta in 2v2 joc mai mult resto ca nu se merita elemental desi am full gear - si mai sunt multe chestii dc nu merg elementali in arena ?


Se joaca la mail specialization pentru ca intel e main stat pe elemental. Cu lava burst instant cast crit rotation dai intre 30 si 60 k lejer iar cu Fulmination (9 chargeuri) dai intre 24k si 120 k cu buffuri proprii. Daca mergea mastery ar fi trebuit sa poti da fulmination odata la 3-4 speluri (overcharge din lighning bolt si chain lighning sa adauge stacuri), dar cum nu merge si dmg-ul este mediocru la overcharge, este de preferat sa joci la haste si crit in loc de mastery.

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cu riscul de warn...
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