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Post Posted: 15-08-2020, 23:40:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=207349&&name=dark-arbiter
Bug description: It has way too low damage compared to logs from retail
About week or so ago I've noticed DA dmg dropped significantly without any documented changes to it. ATM on freakz it does 30-40mil without lust, and 45-60 with it, it used to deal ~60mil non-bl and ~90 with bl. My guess is that "fixing" t21 4p interaction screwed it's base damage.
Don't tell me now that "4p is fixed it's all good ratat" bcs i don't even use 4p bonus, now and before dmg nerf.
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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8WMzbZjmt6HhDxNP#fight=1&&type=damage-done&&source=21 - 2 casts, 130mil dmg (so ~90 with bl and ~40 next, 130 total)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yZ4vwqQpHFBnra8J#fight=1&&type=damage-done&&source=9 - 2 casts, 140mil dmg (same situation, big bl DA, then weaker one, all together 140mil)

FREAKZ:
https://imgur.com/a/HzpOJXl - over 700 RP spent, used fel-oiled trinket for 15th hit, dmg is clowny compared to what it used to be, a week ago what would be a 60-70mil DA

https://imgur.com/a/bWy0sBg - ~550 rp spent, without haste trinket, 14 hits, not even 30mil damage


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Post Posted: 16-08-2020, 17:01:34 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

What gear do you have ? I just did 81m with BL on a dummy.
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Post Posted: 16-08-2020, 18:04:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I dunno about you, but i know 2-3 udks non donors that pull 90-95mil with bl, so keep searching for whats wrong with your build.
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Post Posted: 16-08-2020, 20:44:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

se7enspree wrote:
I dunno about you, but i know 2-3 udks non donors that pull 90-95mil with bl, so keep searching for whats wrong with your build.


Nothing is wrong with my build because I've been playing same one for months now, and suddenly the 5 to 10mil dmg DA crits became 3-5mil crits, same with non-crits, dmg is lower roughly by 30-40%. I tried numerous times, checking if 2p or 4p cause some weird interections, found nothing, dmg is just very low.

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I am mostly mythic geared with 970ilvl, I have 34%+ haste breakpoint for DA (14 hits), around 20% crit and ~90% mastery. I've even farmed fel-oiled trinket few days ago (adds extra DA attack) but with it's shit base dmg, it's now worthless.

My DA also used to deal close to 80-100mil with BL, now i'm lucky if I'll see 60mil, usually its lower than that.

https://imgur.com/a/HzpOJXl - over 700 RP spent, used fel-oiled trinket for 15th hit, dmg is clowny compared to what it used to be, a week ago that would be a 60-70mil DA

https://imgur.com/a/bWy0sBg - ~550 rp spent, without haste trinket, 14 hits, not even 30mil damage

would be nice if u post ur 60+mil DAs if u're that kind and u feel like everything is okay, i'll have a look


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Post Posted: 17-08-2020, 03:15:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

yeah i remember my DA was doing 8-10m crits before but its been a while since i had one of those. the highest crit that i had recently was 6m.
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Post Posted: 17-08-2020, 09:54:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I compared my dps with the DK report you posted :

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/aLFkt8Yh13fQpJn7/8WMzbZjmt6HhDxNP#fight=1,1&&type=damage-done&&source=12,21

I do more damage than him on DA. What is concerning however is the damage of my AOTD which is very low compared to retail values.

Damage on pull :


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Post Posted: 17-08-2020, 11:56:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@naboum


You're not even close to DA haste breakpoint(just enough for 13 hits), yet your lusted DA (I assume it was) deals more damage than mine with stats adjusted exactly for DA st build, so something really weird is happening there(instead of increasing DA dmg a lot, it lowers it?). What trinkets do you use? How many DA attacks do u have with and without bloodlust or trinket procs(if u use haste ones)? What about set pieces? t20, t21, how many pieces?

About AOTD, problem is the hit counter, in freakz army does ~33% of hits compared to retails logs (150 hits vs 500hits). I have noticed it one day long ago(7.2.5 i believe), when it randomly (happened only once!) worked like it should, and my army dealt huge dmg, it was really surprising.

those are my stats:
https://imgur.com/a/eBqMVNY


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Post Posted: 17-08-2020, 13:29:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I'm above the 14 hit breakpoint (18 hits on BL), I have Fel Oiled 940 and Horn of Valor 960 (+8k STR), and 2T21.

If AOTD is bugged af, how come I never saw any bug report, not even on trello ? ... devs are not seeing an obvious bug ?

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Post Posted: 17-08-2020, 14:59:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

naboum wrote:
I'm above the 14 hit breakpoint (18 hits on BL), I have Fel Oiled 940 and Horn of Valor 960 (+8k STR), and 2T21.

If AOTD is bugged af, how come I never saw any bug report, not even on trello ? ... devs are not seeing an obvious bug ?


U should have 34%+ for a 14hit DA, i tried lowering haste to your level and i had 13 hits, above (even 33,95% were 13hits) 34% gives 14 this, and i got 18 hits on bl and 19 hits if bl + fel oiled. DMG still seems way lower than it used to be 2 weeks ago, almost all my BL DAs were around 90mil (without fel oiled), and now they are 70mil maximum with every boost possible.

https://imgur.com/a/ez6wPzk - haste vs DA, ignore "9 base attacks", it's not current info, but values are the same


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Post Posted: 17-08-2020, 16:06:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yes I do have 34% haste.

The haste breakpoints are here :

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P9--dCl_yaVgvlSVvDnPgVqITd30jbJE3qCxbUP5Ghg/edit#gid=224384404

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Post Posted: 18-08-2020, 07:39:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

With drums of the mountain, Flask,Mastery food, Potion of prolonged power.

https://imgur.com/QQE1lzO



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Post Posted: 18-08-2020, 10:47:34 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

dyon wrote:
With drums of the mountain, Flask,Mastery food, Potion of prolonged power.

https://imgur.com/QQE1lzO


ur stats are preety bad (lot of mastery tho) but even with them u should reach around 80mil if not extremely unlucky with crits

I still say the damage is too low on freakz, preety often i see barely 3-5mil (crit) last DA hit, while before i had maximum 11,5mil hits (with only BL and bottomless flask up) if lucky with last crit. Donors even reached 15mil crits.


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Post Posted: 18-08-2020, 13:27:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

thekjukamber wrote:
dyon wrote:
With drums of the mountain, Flask,Mastery food, Potion of prolonged power.

https://imgur.com/QQE1lzO


ur stats are preety bad (lot of mastery tho) but even with them u should reach around 80mil if not extremely unlucky with crits

I still say the damage is too low on freakz, preety often i see barely 3-5mil (crit) last DA hit, while before i had maximum 11,5mil hits (with only BL and bottomless flask up) if lucky with last crit. Donors even reached 15mil crits.



check this with 35% haste https://imgur.com/pg11TPw makes no difference. also only 1 crit like before and dmg is even lower. i used like in first pic prolonged and drums.





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Post Posted: 18-08-2020, 13:29:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yep dmg is preety low, but 1 more hit, that's why u need that haste besides more fluent gameplay(shorter gcd=more RP to spend, faster rune regen etc). Haste kinda works fine and it's on trello for some time already, dmg is the problem, that's the reason for the topic

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Post Posted: 18-08-2020, 14:58:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Confirmed. Dark arbiter dmg is lower then before. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Death-Knight-Unholy-Dark-Arbiter-Val-kyr-Strike-t584643.html after this fix my valkyr critical hits was like 9-10M and 6-7M average hit at 955-960 ilvl. https://imgur.com/AcQsqRX this pic is from 05-06-2020 after the last fix in 03-06-2020 960ilvl. and now with 970 ilvl and better stats, 6,97M max hit and 4,54M average hit https://imgur.com/LJbAnKP




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