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[REJECTED] [Mage] [Spell] Glacial Spike doesn't benefit from Splitting Ice

 
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Post Posted: 17-05-2018, 12:06:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link:
- https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=56377&&name=splitting-ice
- https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=199786&&name=glacial-spike


Bug description: Splitting Ice doesn't increase damage of Glacial Spike. Glacial spike's bonus damage from Icicles should be increased by 25% (5% for each Icicle)

Proof: I tested this without the Incanter's Flow passive and I can absolutely say there is no damage difference for at least 5-10 minutes of testing with and without Splitting Ice. Easily checked ingame.

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Post Posted: 17-05-2018, 13:36:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Glacial spike's bonus damage from Icicles should be increased by 5% not 25%.
https://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/theory/mechanic/spell/glacialspike?spec=MageFrost&&version=7_1_5_23420

Value = DequeueSavedValue(Icicles)
if RandomFloat < 0.2 and ArtifactTraitRank(BlackIce) > 0
= Value * 2
if HasTalent(SplittingIce)
= Value * 1.05
= Value + DequeueSavedValue(GlacialSpikeIcicles)

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Post Posted: 17-05-2018, 19:39:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

That's not exactly how it works cause the damage of Glacial Spike is not exactly just icicles. it's dmg + IciclesDmg. and the splitting ice benefit only works on IciclesDmg not the whole glacial spike dmg, so the benefit is gonna much lower than 5%. Just sayin'.
Proof: Dmg = (10.0 * TotalSpellPower + DequeueSavedValue(GlacialSpikeIcicles)) * TotalDamageMultiplier

GlacialSpikeIcicles: = if HasTalent(SplittingIce)
= Value * 1.05


I have tested it out with no gear, to avoid all the black ice procs and removed all the talents that give a bit of rng to the spec. And this is what I found out

Glacial Spike w/ Splitting Ice: 87 480 (on main target)
Glacial Spike w/e Splitting Ice: 86 805


However, I'm currently on my friend's laptop, I'll test it thouroughly later when I log in on my desktop. and I'll post what I find on an edit here.

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Post Posted: 17-05-2018, 22:56:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Of course, we have never mentioned anything about glacial spike overall dmg being affected by 5%(or 25% in frostaa case) bonus damage from Splitting Ice.

Edit: What am I tested everything seems alright.

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Post Posted: 17-05-2018, 23:27:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Sorry, I wrote this report and went to work after that, then I realized that the difference of the Icicle bonus part for Glacial Spike should be 5%, therefore I can't even prove for sure that it works or doesn't work simply because the difference would be small - approx 3% overall. (As an example I do approx 1 mln normal with Glacial spike, 2 mln crit; 400k flat damage + 5x icicle damage; therefore 5% bonus of 1,000k-400k = 5% out of 600k is 30k. And 30k dmg is 3% out of 1,000k.)
Sorry for the whole thing, I was just really excited when I changed to Frost and haven't calculated it properly.
Although it's worth testing.

Now, another thing is that the Frozen Touch talent doesn't work properly (on the same Talent Tier). But that's another topic to be posted on...

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Post Posted: 17-05-2018, 23:55:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yeah no worries, I'm nearly home. I'll be testing it shortly and put Screenshot proof in the edit here, and you're right, the difference is gonna be small but testing without gear or weapon is gonna make any difference tied to the single variable that is this talent. =)



EDIT: Gonna reject this, my tests from earlier check out, naked with no gear nor weapon, with frostbolt hits and not crits, tehre's a small difference in dmg

My tests' results earlier:
Glacial Spike with Splitting Ice: 87 480 (on main target)
Glacial Spike without Splitting Ice: 86 805

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