[REJECTED] [Warlock][Affliction] Agony NOT COMING WITHOUT PROOF

[Seyrox]

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=980
Bug description: Damage too low
Proof:

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=980 (wowhead link)
For ex take this video the formula of the overall damage for agony is [384+(36%*sp)]*10 without HASTE so the formula for a tick would be [35+(3.6%*sp)]*11(LAST TICK] . At 2:27 he has 23.261 intellect which is 23251 spellpower *10%(From Dark intent he has it up you can see in the right top corner) is 25587 SPELLPOWER . Taking the formula for last tick(I couldn't identify the first one which is 22960 Damage(min 4:08, btw you can see he has procs but when he applied agony no procs were up 3:58) so apply the formula then :

(25587*0.036(spellpower coef)+35)*11(number of stacks+1)*2.13(mastery)=22402.( ROUGLY 500 DAMAGE LOWER) BTW FORMULA WAS FOR 5.4.0.

Then Agony got nerfed in 5.4.1 AND IT DIDNT GET ANY BUFFS OR NERFS AGAIN and the formula of the overall damage is [324+(16963(my spellpower)*0.306]*10*1.88(My mastery, you can check my stats here)=106676(not like in the tooltip as it shows 120.960.. but i have haste so i have 2 more ticks of 10 stacks agony which are 10303.67464*2=20607.34928 Combined it does 127201 7k more than tooltip

TL;dr its not 28.05% sp overall its 30.6%


I may have some errors, if you find one please let me know

@Dreadblade @madau



Demonolgy Warlock Guide 5.4.8

[niyaz]

agony damage is way toooo low

i did some calculations with a naked char..

my base spell power is 213. 0 haste and 24% mastery.

as per 5.4.1 (mon oct 28 2013 ) the last fix for the patch.. [324 ( + 30.6% of spell power) * 10] is what the damage must be

so.. [324 + (30.6% * 213) * 10] = 3891.78. adding in 24% mastery (3891.78 + (3891.78 * 24%)) = 4825.807

agony for me should do 4825.807 damage.. but it does 1915. only 39.68% of what is should actually do..

i have uploaded calculations and screenshots http://imgur.com/a/v6ChR

do take a look.

% edited

[Nemoboyz]

you can check my post here who got ignored (on page no. 2)
Maybe this topic gets noticed...
agony have 12 ticks without haste by the way.it deals 12 times damage over 24 seconds. this means the damage is once every 2 seconds.(obviously). The damage from each tick increases by 1/2 the original tick damage until stack reaches 10.

Quote:

I think i have found the problem. In the formula above, with my stats (211 sp and 24.80% mastery) ,we have (324+(0.306 *211))/12*2*1.24=80. If that would be the case I should hit for ~ 80 shadow damage. BUT i deal ~45 damage which means that the approximate formula is (324+(0.306*211))/12*1.1*1.24=44 . As we can see is not 2 its 1.1 ( i don't care about the difference as long as is not the right one) or there is some spell power scale problem. In the video that I've posted you can see the damage I do with each tick. So let's begin: Code:  Tick   1    2   3    4     5      6       7      8       9    10    11     12  DMG   45   66   88   110   132    154    176    198    220   242    242   242 so first tick is (324+(0.306*211))/12*1.1*1.24=44 (44.05 to be precise) 2) 44+ 1/2 of first tick= 66 3) 66+ 1/2 of first tick= 88 4) 88+ 1/2 of first tick= 110 5) 110+ 1/2 of first tick= 132 6) 132+ 1/2 of first tick= 155 7) 155+ 1/2 of first tick= 177 8) 177+ 1/2 of first tick= 199 9) 199+ 1/2 of first tick= 221 10) 221+ 1/2 of first tick= 243 (here the increase stops) 11) 243 12) 243 the numbers are not exactly as the ones from video because they are rounded. If we gather the lost numbers from the first tick until the second we see that we lose ~ 264 damage (if i am not mistaken) the damage lost is increased once spell power is increased too. https://youtube.com/watch?v=DcLXr4PDx44:

[Shodan]

Can you print your caracter sheet ? please without gear ofc

Anyway de 1.1 theory is wrong . I will admit that something is wrong but not that big of a deal like you said . Probably Seyrox is right (i hate you) even tho i don't understand what the hell he is saying .

Stats :
Combat log :



Discord (Remix) - Eurobeat Brony

[Nemoboyz]

@Shodan its the same with 30%. The difference is a few decimals.
i am at work at the moment but i can when i get home at 18:30

[Nemoboyz]

Shodan wrote:

Can you print your caracter sheet ? please without gear ofc Anyway de 1.1 theory is wrong . I will admit that something is wrong but not that big of a deal like you said . Probably Seyrox is right (i hate you) even tho i don't understand what the hell he is saying . Stats : Combat log :

Yea it's true, is not exactly the same with higher spell power, i don't know why but as you said something is not right and it feels is not this formula:

(324+(0.306 *sp))/12*2*1.(mastery here) for first tick
if the formula from spell database is 2.55% per each tick then it should be 30.6 overall but if you calculate you (almost) get the damage the spell shows you in the tooltip.
when i get home i will be able to think more clearly.

edit: ok so these are my stats and the overall damage of my agony http://i.imgur.com/ptjBpOp.jpg
and this is the overall i should do by using this formula [324(+30.6%sp)]*10*1.248

so [324(+64.566)]*10*1.248=4849.30368 total damage over 24 seconds. the tooltip shows 4800 rounded up. but i do 1915.

[Seyrox]

I think the formula is [35+(3.06% *sp)]*11 for a tick otherwise he couldn't reach 22960 last tick of agony if there was [35+(3.27%(36%sp/11)*sp)]*11 otherwise it would result 20kish(not doing the math right now with his sp and mastery)



Demonolgy Warlock Guide 5.4.8

[mm00444]

Nemoboyz wrote:

Yea it's true, is not exactly the same with higher spell power, i don't know why but as you said something is not right and it feels is not this formula: (324+(0.306 *sp))/12*2*1.(mastery here) for first tick if the formula from spell database is 2.55% per each tick then it should be 30.6 overall but if you calculate you (almost) get the damage the spell shows you in the tooltip. when i get home i will be able to think more clearly. edit: ok so these are my stats and the overall damage of my agony http://i.imgur.com/ptjBpOp.jpg and this is the overall i should do by using this formula [324(+30.6%sp)]*10*1.248 so [324(+64.566)]*10*1.248=4849.30368 total damage over 24 seconds. the tooltip shows 4800 rounded up. but i do 1915.

THANK YOU so much now look at this
[324(+64.566)]*10*1.248=4849 but we do it 2024 and 4800 as agony say on this ss http://i.imgur.com/2LwoIP4.jpg we do 2024 dmg
now look at this (4800÷2024=2.371)==>agony have low dmg

[Cripper25]

Finaly somebody find it out.. Good job

[mm00444]

@shocker

[raminifreaks]

Realy?!!!!!!!!!
1960/4800

http://imgur.com/a/75HEE

[Cripper25]

UP

[Nytrox]

thanks,you just brought the proof that it works fine,23251+11479=34730*1.1=38203+27=38230*0.0255*11*2.1298=22838(he got 22960,dk what caused the difference).
p.s. weapon has spell power.

[Seyrox]

@dreadblade actually nytrox is right(hate you) you can close this, agony will remain the same it has the right values



Demonolgy Warlock Guide 5.4.8

[Nemoboyz]

Nytrox wrote:

thanks,you just brought the proof that it works fine,23251+11479=34730*1.1=38203+27=38230*0.0255*11*2.1298=22838(he got 22960,dk what caused the difference). p.s. weapon has spell power.

care to explain the meaning of those numbers?