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Survival Hunter PvE Guide


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I.Talents & Glyphs

II.Stats / Atributes si Enchants

III.Gems

IV.Pets

V.Consumables

VI.Race

VII.Rotation

VIII.Professions

IX.Reforge

X.Macros





I.Talents & Glyphs

1.Talent build

*Edit: Am revenit cu o poza, talent calculatorul de pe WoWHead este acum pe patch MoP (Mists of Pandaria).



2.Glyphs

*Stiu ca link-urile la glyphe arata alt ceva, este din cauza ca WoWHead este pe patch MoP.

Prime:

Glyph of Serpent Sting
Glyph of Explosive Shot
Glyph of Kill Shot

Major:

Glyphu-urile care urmeaza nu prezinta o crestere a dps-ului dar pot fi utile in unele stituatii.

Glyph of Raptor Strike (ex: Raptor Strike (wowhead link) pe Theralion daca va duceti sa va stackati langa melee la meteorit)
Glyph of Misdirection (Aggro control)
Glyph of Mending (Pet survivability)

Minor:

Glyph of Feign Death (Aggro control)
Glyph of Revive Pet
Glyph of Aspect of the Pack

II.Stats / Atributes si Enchants

1.Stats / Atributes
Inainte sa vorbim despre prioritatile stats-urilor sa vedem totusi ce ne ofera fiecare(valabil pentru level 85):

Ratings
120.109 Hit Rating = 1% Hit
179.29 Crit Rating = 1% Crit
128.057 Haste Rating = 1% Haste
179.28 Mastery Rating = 1 Mastery

Attack Power
14 AP (attack power) = 1 dps (auto-shot)

Agility
1 Agility = 2 AP
324.85 Agility = 1% crit
1 Agil = .55 Crit Rating

Global Cooldown
1 second

Armor Penetration
Nu mai exista in Cataclysm.

Proritati: Hit Cap > Agility > Crit > Mastery > Haste

Hit Cap
Level 85 mob: 5% miss chance -> Trebuie 5% Hit(601) pentru PvP. (4% - 481 pentru Draenei)
Level 87 mob: 6% miss chance -> Trebuie 6% Hit(721) pentru Dungeon(heroic) boss. (5% - 601 pentru Draenei)
Level 88 mob: 8% miss chance -> Trebuie 8% Hit(961) pentru Raid boss. (7% - 841 pentru Draenei)

Crit Cap=104.8% (valabil pentru raid bosses)
De ce 104.8%? Deoarece un raid boss are 3 levele mai mult decat hunterul nostru,ceea ce ii suprima critul cu 4.8%.
Deci daca in tooltip aveti de ex. 40% crit, cand dati dps pe un raid boss aveti defapt 35.2% crit.

2.Enchants
Head - Arcanum of the Ramkahen
Shoulder - Greater Inscription of Shattered Crystal
Back - Enchant Cloak - Major Agility (wowhead link)
Chest - Enchant Chest - Peerless Stats (wowhead link)
Wrist - Enchant Bracer - Agility (wowhead link)
Hands - Enchant Gloves - Major Agility (wowhead link)
Belt - Ebonsteel Belt Buckle
Legs - Dragonscale Leg Armor
Feet - Enchant Boots - Major Agility (wowhead link)
2H Weapon - Enchant 2H Weapon - Mighty Agility (wowhead link)
1H Weapon - Enchant Weapon - Exceptional Agility (wowhead link)
Ranged weapon - Gnomish X-Ray Scope

III.Gems

Meta: Agile Shadowspirit Diamond
Red: Delicate Inferno Ruby
Yellow: Deadly Ember Topaz Doar daca socket bonus este peste 20 agility.
Blue: Shifting Demonseye Doar daca socket bonus este peste 20 agility.
Glinting Demonseye Daca nu ai hit cap.

IV.Pets

Inainte de a selecta un pet sa vedem ce stim despre ei:

Petul primeste:

42.5% of hunter AP
70% of hunter armor
100% of hunter hit, pe langa hit petul primeste de asemenea si expertise("incorporat" in hit).Deci daca esti hit capped, petul tau este hit capped si expertise capped.
100% of hunter haste
100% of hunter crit

Ferocity
67% of hunter stamina

Cunning
72.5% of hunter stamina

Tenacity
78% of hunter stamina

Inainte de a-ti alege un pet uita-te la compozitia raidului:
-Daca nu este vreun hunter care sa aiba Cat atunci va veti lua Cat, pentru abilitatea Roar of Courage (wowhead link).
-Daca raidul are un hunter care are Cat, atunci vei prefera Dragonhawk sau Wind Serpent pentru abilitatile lor Fire Breath (wowhead link) si Lightning Breath (wowhead link); casterii va vor multumi.
Va intrebati de ce 8% magic damage? pentru ca Survival hunter da doar MAGIC damage exeptand auto-shot si kill shot, acesta il consider un avantaj impotriva unui spec de Marksmanship deoarece magic damage ignora armura.

Pet talents
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Ferocity



Cunning



V.Consumables

Flask: Flask of the Winds
Battle Elixir: Elixir of the Cobra sau Elixir of Impossible Accuracy daca nu ai hit cap.
Potion: Potion of the Tol'vir
Food: Skewered Eel

Atentie! Elixirul nu se stackeaza cu Flaskul, poti avea ori una,ori alta.

VI.Race

Orc > Troll > Tauren > Undead .
Worgen > Draenei > Dwarf .
Restul claselor nu prezinta raciale in contributia dps-ului la un boss.

VII.Rotation

Hunterul nu are o rotatie fixa ci se folosesc abilitatile dupa prioritati:

Normal rotation:
1.Rapid Fire (wowhead link)
2.Serpent Sting (wowhead link)
3.Black Arrow (wowhead link)
4.Kill Shot (wowhead link) cand bossul este sub 20% hp
5.Explosive Shot (wowhead link)
6.Arcane Shot (wowhead link) cand ai exces de focus
7.Cobra Shot (wowhead link) cand ai nevoie de focus

Lock and Load Rotation: (cand procuie T.N.T. (wowhead link)
1.Explosive Shot (wowhead link)
2.Cobra Shot (wowhead link) (Kill Command (wowhead link) daca ai exces de focus)
3.Explosive Shot (wowhead link)
4.Cobra Shot (wowhead link) (Arcane Shot (wowhead link) daca ai exces de focus)
5.Explosive Shot (wowhead link)

La punctul 2 din rotatia Lock and Load se prefera Kill Command deoarece Arcane Shot consuma Lock and Load si preferam sa il pastram pentru Explosive Shot.

VIII.Professions


-Jewlecrafting - 81 extra Agility, Delicate Chimera's Eye
-Leatherworking - 80 extra Agility, Draconic Embossment - Agility (wowhead link)
-Blacksmithing - 80 extra Agility, Socket Bracer (wowhead link) + Socket Gloves (wowhead link)
-Alchemy - 80 extra Agility, Mixology (wowhead link) + Flask of the Winds
-Inscription - 80 extra Agility Swiftsteel Inscription (wowhead link)
-Engineering - 80 extra Agility(in medie), Synapse Springs (wowhead link) si sa nu uitam de Agile Bio-Optic Killshades, in care vei avea Smooth Cogwheel si Fractured Cogwheel daca esti hit capped sau Smooth Cogwheel si Rigid Cogwheel daca nu esti hit capped.
-Enchanting - 80 extra Agility, Enchant Ring - Agility (wowhead link)

Va recomand sa aveti 2 din aceste profesii, eu unul am Jewlecrafting si Engineering insa as fi preferat Leatherworking in loc de Jewlecrafting deoarece poti aduna Chaos Orb sa iti daci ceva iteme gen Corded Viper Belt si vor fi si iteme mai bune in fiecare patch.

Ar mai fi fost si Tailoring cu Swordguard Embroidery (wowhead link) insa nu as recomanda aceasta profesie pe un hunter.
Daca iti alegi 2 profesii principale(de mai sus), atunci ar fi mult mai usor daca ai mai avea inca un caracter sau un prieten care sa aiba profesiile secundare necesare pentru a obtine materialele dorite.

IX.Reforge

Inainte de a da reforge pe orice item, avem doua mari situatii. Vezi in care din ele te afli.

1.Nu esti hit capped.
-Reforge Haste in Hit.
-Daca inca nu ai atins hit cap, Reforge Mastery in Hit.
-Daca nici acum nu ai, Reforge Crit in Hit.

-Daca ai facut hit cap in urma unui Reforge de mai sus atunci te duci la punctul 2 fara a mai modifica itemele anterioare la care deja ai dat Reforge.

2.Esti hit capped sau ai prea mult hit
-Daca ai prea mult hit:
Reforge Hit in Crit pe itemele fara Crit.
Reforge Hit in Mastery pe iteme care contin Crit dar fara Mastery.
Reforge Hit in Haste pe iteme care contin Crit/Mastery dar fara haste.
-Daca ai hit cap:
Item cu Crit/Haste/Mastery - lasam asa.
Item cu Crit/Haste - Reforge Haste in Mastery.
Item cu Crit/Mastery - lasam asa.
Item cu Haste/Mastery - Reforge Haste in Crit.
Item doar cu Haste sau doar cu Mastery, Reforge una din ele in Crit.

Exemple de reforge:
-Ai hit cap:
Don Rodrigo's Fabulous Necklace Reforge haste in crit.
Arrowsinger Legguards Reforge mastery in crit. Daca ai depasit destul de mult hit cap (sa zicem ca ai peste 9% hit) atunci reforge hit in critical.
Mantle of Moss Reforge haste in mastery.
-Nu ai hit cap:
Mantle of Moss Reforge haste in hit.
Dory's Finery Nu facem nimic.

Incercati sa evitati sa dati Reforge din critical in hit, daca aveti nevoie de hit mai intai vizati itemele cu haste, apoi mastery si eventual crit doar daca nu aveti de ales.


X.Macros

Misdirection Macro
Code:
/cast [@focus,help][@pet,exists] Misdirection

Casteaza Missdirection (wowhead link) pe Focus iar daca nu exista il va casta pe pet.

Aspect Dancing Macro 1
Code:
/cast Aspect of the Hawk
/cast Aspect of the Fox

Se schimba mai usor aspectele cu doar o apasare de buton.

Aspect Dancing Macro 2
Code:
/cast !Aspect of the Hawk
/cast Explosive Shot

Acest macro merge bine in combinatie cu abilitatile instant. Explosive shot se poate inlocui cu alt ceva. Foarte bun daca uiti frecvent sa iti pui aspectul.

Trap Launcher Macro
Code:
/castsequence [nomod]reset=3 Trap Launcher, Freezing Trap

Se apasa de 2 ori pentru a lansa un Trap de la distanta. Freezing Trap se inlocuieste cu trapul dorit.

Pet Management Macro
Code:
/cast [nomod,nopet]Call Pet 1
/cast [nomod,target=pet,dead]Revive Pet
/cast [nomod,pet,nomod,button:1]Mend Pet
/cast [nomod,pet,nomod,button:2]Dismiss Pet

Un macros foarte util, sa nu iti incarci Action Bars cu atatea comenzi de pet. Functioneaza in felul urmator:
-Daca nu ai pet, iti va sumona petul (Pet 1 se poate schimba cu ce pet se doreste);
-Daca ai petul scos, va casta Mend Pet (wowhead link) pe el;
-Daca petul este mort, va casta Revive Pet (wowhead link);
-Click dreapta, Dismiss Pet (wowhead link).

All CD's Macros
Code:
/cast Rapid Fire
/cast Call of the Wild
/cast Rabid
/cast Bestial Wrath
/use 13
/use 14
/use 10

Un simplu buton pentru folosirea simultana a mai multor cooldown-uri. Se observa acolo /use 13, 14 si 10; 13 si 14 reprezinta trinketele iar 10 reprezinta Hands, util daca ai enchant de Engineering gen Synapse Springs (wowhead link).
De asemenea se mai poate adauga o linie in acest macros daca esti Troll sau Orc.

Troll
Code:
/cast Berserking

Orc
Code:
/cast Blood Fury


Kill Shot Macros
Code:
/cancelaura Deterrence
/cancelaura Hand of Protection
/cast Kill Shot

Un macro util pentru a folosi Kill Shot (wowhead link) fara a fi nevoiti sa dati click dreapta pe Deterence sau Hand of Protection de la paladin. Este util mai mult in PvP dar poate fi util si in raid.


Hmm cam atat am avut de spus, acum e timpul sa aruncati cu rosii in mine - .

Look-ul a fost inspirat de la Paul !?, +rep him pentru aspect.



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Post Posted: 18-11-2011, 13:33:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Vreau drepturile de autor

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Hunter-Marksmanship-PVE-t97888.html

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Aici ai dreptate, nu am stiut exact cum sa fac scrisul sa iasa in evidenta si m-am inspirat din topicul tau -
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hai frate acum serios alt cumva sa faceti reputatie nu aveti -? ori cum greate tut pt cn l`a facut cu adevarat


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Deci daca nu avem hit cap si avem head de la enginering cu cogwel punem socket cu crit iar daca avem cap punem hit ?


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AndroSGS wrote:
Deci daca nu avem hit cap si avem head de la enginering cu cogwel punem socket cu crit iar daca avem cap punem hit ?


Le-am pus din greseala invers, ar trebui sa fie bine acum.

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Survival merge pe freakz ?
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interesant...dar cam lasa de dorit... iar cu privire la macroul de All CD:

/cast Rapid Fire
/cast Call of the Wild
/cast Rabid
/cast Bestial Wrath
/use 13
/use 14
/use 10

vezi ca Bestial Wrath e skill de Beastmastery si nu poate fi folosit pe Survival.

De asemenea ar trebuii sa mentionezi ca Survival e un spec de curatat mobi si nu de encounter (cu Boss) pentru ca evident bossu e imun la trapeuri (vezi talentele Point of no escape, Lock and Loaded
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laanah wrote:
interesant...dar cam lasa de dorit... iar cu privire la macroul de All CD:

/cast Rapid Fire
/cast Call of the Wild
/cast Rabid
/cast Bestial Wrath
/use 13
/use 14
/use 10

vezi ca Bestial Wrath e skill de Beastmastery si nu poate fi folosit pe Survival.

De asemenea ar trebuii sa mentionezi ca Survival e un spec de curatat mobi si nu de encounter (cu Boss) pentru ca evident bossu e imun la trapeuri (vezi talentele Point of no escape, Lock and Loaded
,TNT)


Acela este un macro general, nu te incurca cu nimic daca scrii in el si Bestial Wrath, unii au si spec de Beast Mastery si poate fi util.

E adevarat ca survival e mai mult de curatat mobi dar e ceva mai bun decat Marksmanship la low level gear.
Eu am jucat o perioada indlungata pe acest spec (nu prea aveai bossi pentru gear decent pentru Marksmanship) si pe deasupra rotatia de pe Survival mi se pare ceva mai flexibila fata de Marksman in care trebuie sa ai grija sa castezi 2x Steady shot unul dupa altul (Improved Steady Shot (wowhead link)) si de multe ori ai exces de focus prea mare sau pierzi serpent sting ca nu dadeai Chimera shot la timp.

Cat despre trapuri, nu stiu exact cum e pe original dar aici Ice Trap (wowhead link) se activeaza cand bossul este aproape (adevarat ca este imun) si se activeaza si talentul Lock and Load (wowhead link). Am vazut ca unii joaca in stilul asta cu trap la cooldown insa mie imi displace chestia asta -

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Post Posted: 24-07-2012, 14:57:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

yogaby103 wrote:
laanah wrote:
interesant...dar cam lasa de dorit... iar cu privire la macroul de All CD:

/cast Rapid Fire
/cast Call of the Wild
/cast Rabid
/cast Bestial Wrath
/use 13
/use 14
/use 10

vezi ca Bestial Wrath e skill de Beastmastery si nu poate fi folosit pe Survival.

De asemenea ar trebuii sa mentionezi ca Survival e un spec de curatat mobi si nu de encounter (cu Boss) pentru ca evident bossu e imun la trapeuri (vezi talentele Point of no escape, Lock and Loaded
,TNT)


Acela este un macro general, nu te incurca cu nimic daca scrii in el si Bestial Wrath, unii au si spec de Beast Mastery si poate fi util.

E adevarat ca survival e mai mult de curatat mobi dar e ceva mai bun decat Marksmanship la low level gear.
Eu am jucat o perioada indlungata pe acest spec (nu prea aveai bossi pentru gear decent pentru Marksmanship) si pe deasupra rotatia de pe Survival mi se pare ceva mai flexibila fata de Marksman in care trebuie sa ai grija sa castezi 2x Steady shot unul dupa altul (Improved Steady Shot (wowhead link)) si de multe ori ai exces de focus prea mare sau pierzi serpent sting ca nu dadeai Chimera shot la timp.

Cat despre trapuri, nu stiu exact cum e pe original dar aici Ice Trap (wowhead link) se activeaza cand bossul este aproape (adevarat ca este imun) si se activeaza si talentul Lock and Load (wowhead link). Am vazut ca unii joaca in stilul asta cu trap la cooldown insa mie imi displace chestia asta -


Daca ai folosit si trinkete la use sau potiuni ei bine macroul de mai sus o sa se blockeze la Bestial Wrath si ca urmare nu merge. E macro de bm.
nu am zis ca nu se detoneaza trapurile, am zis doar ca dai prea putin dmg pentru ca nu iti merg talentele bine Point of no Escape te face sa dai mai mult dmg pe targeturile frozen/ enshare, etc si tot asa.
Faza cu advance steady shot e destul de buna si pentru survival (vezi procu de sniper cu increase dmg)

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