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Posted: 25-12-2019, 16:02:00
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Boss
:
Engine of souls
(all modes)
Spells
:
Wailing souls
and
Tormented cries
Bug description
: The behavior of these two spells is a bit different on retail, making the freakz boss overtuned, specifically:
(1)
Wailing souls
is not cast below 35% of shared bosses HP. If the cast is successful (a bit) above this percentage,
Soul Queen Dejahna
will stop channeling once the desolate host is ready to spawn at ~30%; all the logs/videos agree to this, see the video in the proof, or
this
example if you want a log, and many others for a similar fight duration
(2)
Tormented cries
is not cast below 35% of shared bosses HP. If
Engine of souls
is still channeling at 35%, it should stop the channel. See the Method video in the proof for an example. Again, all logs/videos agree to this
I found this while trying to understand the damage taken on retail, it was a bit difficult to pin down since it is a phased encounter and these behaviors are not documented on wowhead/etc., but checking a large number of logs (and the available videos) it is possible to deduce the values. It applies on all modes, not only mythic, and would make tanking/healing during the "overlap" easier (because, actually these spells are not cast while all 3 bosses are active on blizzard)
Note
: About the logs, the boss on retail has a second enrage (
Devour soul
) so that you never see a 3rd cast of tormented cries in any kill; I don't know if it is implemented here
Proof
:
Spoiler:
For (1), look for example at this video at 5:36:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=383J89MwIDw:
where the spirit realm boss interrupts "wailing souls" just before the host spawns.
For (2), you can see at 5:00 in the method video that the boss interrupts "tormented cries" at ~35%:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CRew0dLmnDw:
and below 30% there is no channel of anything.
Here is the spirit realm PoV, again at 4:59 you can see that both bosses stop casting these spells:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kWbuNVzdX2I:
Compare to freakz where it casts below 30%:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bHEoGQaOFg4:
If you want a shorter example, check this on heroic mode, at ~3:36:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zriFwIEZfAk:
The two seem to agree, the threshold value is ~35.3% (and does not depend on fight duration or number of casts, only on boss HP%), it applies both to short fights (3-4 casts total) or long (5 casts).
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