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Post Posted: 19-07-2012, 20:07:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Descrierea bugului / Bug description:

Pe Freakz, daca te apuci de un cast si vrei sa il opresti cu un macro de genul (sa dau exemplu pentru priest)
Code:
/stopcasting
/cast Power word shield

se va intampla urmatorul lucru: castul se va opri, dar abilitatea instanta nu va fi folosita imediat, e nevoie de 2-4 press-uri ca sa intre si ea.

Cu alte cuvinte, chiar si la fake cast se "pune" global cooldown, acest lucru afectand casterii imens in PVP.

Dovada / Proof:

Deocamdata reinstalez wow Freakz, daca e nevoie sa aduc 1-2 videos, spune-mi (Zohl)

video

Cand o sa mearga sa il pun pe youtube, il pun acolo hd.

NB: pe freakz am latency spre 0, pe retail merge si spre 100, plus ca faceam render in timp ce filmam (low fps - )

Ce trebuie sa se vada, se vede:

Pe Freakz dureaza absurd de mult (si e nevoie de multe keypresses) pentru ca opri castul + a casta un instant spell
Pe retail e nevoie de un singur press pentru a opri un channeled cast / cast si a casta un instant spell


Atentie!

Bugul nu apare si daca trece deja global cooldown-ul.

De exemplu, daca apas o singura data macro-ul

/stopcasting
/cast riptide

in timp ce "sunt" inca in gcd (in ghilimele pus, pentru ca gcd nu ar trebui sa apara la cast), abilitatea instanta nu este castata.

Daca, insa, a trecut acest "gcd", abilitatea "intra" fara probleme.

Videos maine, 3.08, nu merge sa uploadez pe youtube deocamdata. - done


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Post Posted: 19-07-2012, 20:34:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

+1, chestia asta te dispera si pe Fire Mage, daca ai /stopcasting pentru Combustion, te incurci de Global Cooldown.
Proof ca ar trebui sa se scoata GCD la fake cast: http://www.wowwiki.com/Cooldown

Quote:
If the spell has a casting time less than the global cooldown (or instant cast), you generally have to wait the remainder of the global cooldown. If a spell with casting time is interrupted before it has finished casting, the global cooldown will be canceled, meaning you can start casting a new one immediately.


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Post Posted: 20-07-2012, 12:41:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

^ what he said confirm

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Post Posted: 24-07-2012, 15:33:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

As vrea daca se poate un confirm de la Ravenous si ca a vazut postul, si ca exista bugul. Daca trebuie sa aduc filmulete, chestii, sa imi zici.

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Post Posted: 24-07-2012, 15:40:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Confirm. Nu ar trebui sa fie GCD atunci cand incepi un cast si nu il finalizezi.
Insa chestia asta e valabila doar pentru spellurile castate, spellurile cu Channeling time primesc GCD si daca nu sunt finalizate.



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Post Posted: 24-07-2012, 15:41:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mersi de confirm. Asteptam seria de PVP fixes -

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Post Posted: 24-07-2012, 15:53:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Phixelzilla wrote:
Mersi de confirm. Asteptam seria de PVP fixes -


Care PvP? Si PvE e la fel de tragic. Asta ar trebui sa aiba Top Priority, e durere la orice macro cu /stopcasting, asta incluzand (cum spuneam eu) Combustion la Fire Mage sau Interrupts la majoritatea claselor.


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Post Posted: 02-08-2012, 22:26:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

+1, cum au confirmat si altii, acest bug este un mare dezavantaj ptr casteri.
un hotfix cat mai rapid ar fi perfect.

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Post Posted: 02-08-2012, 22:33:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

FALS. Dacã e nevoie postez filmuleț.
Am încercat pe dumy target sã castez așa:
Frostbolt
dupã 0.2-0.3 secunde am oprit castul.
Am încercat imediat sã castez Blink și primeam mesajul urmãtor: "Spell is not ready yet".
La Blink am macroul ãsta:
Code:
#showtooltip Blink
/stopcasting
/cancelaura Ice Block
/cast Blink


La fel e și pe blizz, trebuie sã spamezi abilitatea 2-3 ori. Asta nu ține de script, ține mai mult de MS.

Dacã vrei sã testezi din propria initiativã fã un macro de genul ãsta:
Code:
/stopcasting
/cast Frostbolt

Încearcã sã-l spamezi odatã la 0.2, 0.3 secunde și vei vedea cã vei fi spamat de "Spell is not ready yet". Totul ține de MS.

LE:
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asta incluzand (cum spuneam eu) Combustion la Fire Mage sau Interrupts la majoritatea claselor.

Combustion nu are treabã cu GCD, pentru cã nu are GCD.


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Post Posted: 02-08-2012, 22:44:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ok, filmez si revin.

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Post Posted: 02-08-2012, 22:48:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

myt42xxx wrote:
LE:
LightPaladin wrote:
asta incluzand (cum spuneam eu) Combustion la Fire Mage sau Interrupts la majoritatea claselor.

Combustion nu are treabã cu GCD, pentru cã nu are GCD.


FALS! La tine. Combustion a scapat de GCD pe 4.1, pe 4.0.6 are GCD. Nu crezi? Fa ce ne-ai sugerat tu noua. Casteaza o vraja si fa macro de gen:

Code:
/stopcasting
/cast Combustion


Si vezi ce se intampla. Iti spameaza "Spell not ready yet", chestie care-ti incurca tot burstul, ca de multe ori n-apuci sa dai Combustion atunci cand e nevoie de el. (a.k.a. high Ignite)

Proof? Uite din changelog de 4.1:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/patch-notes/4-1-0
Quote:
Fire

Combustion no longer has a global cooldown.

Ignite is no longer triggered from periodic critical effects.


Iar legat de ce spui tu, cum ca asa ar fi si pe Blizzard. Ei bine, atat acolo, cat si aici, am sub 50 ms. Cu toate astea, acolo nu primeam "Spell not ready yet" la macro-ul de Interrupt/Spellsteal (adica /stopcasting in el), in timp ce aici primesc in continuu. So yeah, n-are treaba cu latency, e server-side problem.


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Post Posted: 03-08-2012, 10:09:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

LightPaladin are dreptate,daca ai un ms mic inseamna ca macro`urile cu stopcast ar fi instant deoarece opresti un cast,gcd dispare instant si poti casta imediat fara a astepta sa treaca mesajul " spell is not ready yet" adica 0.3-0.5 sec.
Cu un ms de +200, se poate intampla sa iti arate " spell is not ready yet" deoarece ai un delay de 0.5-1 sec iar server`u primeste informatia ca tu ai oprit cast`ul cu acelasi delay.

Dar in acest caz, cred ca toti romanii au intre 5-30 ms ( exceptand cei cu internet pe sfoara din '77 ) rezultand un bug care nu e client-side.

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Post Posted: 03-08-2012, 11:21:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Added movie in the first post.

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Post Posted: 03-08-2012, 12:59:34 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ia incearca la Rain of Fire pe retail, sa lasi un tick apoi sa dai altceva. Si incearca si cu Drain Life, la Drain Life ar trebui sa iei GCD daca apuca sa dea un tick -


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Post Posted: 04-08-2012, 02:04:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Shaman footage - Freakz
Lock footage - Retail

Partea cea mai suspecta mi se pare mie urmatoarea:

Ai un cast de 5 secunde sa zicem.

Daca folosesti macro de genul

/stopcasting
/cast x

in prima secunda de la inceputul castului, nu o ia din prima.

In schimb, daca incerci asta la 2 secunde sa zicem de la inceputul castului de 5 secunde (ai iesit din perioada de "gcd"), macro-ul merge dintr-un singur keypress (pe freakz + blizz)


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