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Post Posted: 27-02-2019, 07:29:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Bug description: I did alot of tests with Infernal Cinders. Originally I thought it simply didn't proc off of Fists of Fury and Spinning Crane Kick, but after further testing it turns out that it doesn't proc off of any ww melee abilities except Tiger Palm and Blackout Kick.

Proof: All of the above abilities are classified as Melee Damage Class so it should proc off of all of them. For the non-channeled attacks stood at a 45 degree angle away from a dummy and hit them with these abilities so that I could see if I got any procs from the abilities themselves and not the basic melee attacks. Here are the results.

Screenshot of the gear I used. Only the legendary boots to make FoF usage faster, Cinders, and Faulty. No Artifact. https://gyazo.com/717ee869ffcc0474cabfb4e27a8ddd80

Here is a screenshot of what the damage tick from Cinders typically looks like. As you can see, its labeled "Infernal Cinders" on the combat log. https://gyazo.com/d82b2c2f07c230943c072059ea4559d8

Here are screenshots of my Fists of Fury usage from logs. Note that Cinders *never* once procs out of fists of fury, only the attacks that follow it:
https://gyazo.com/4fc1763ab41df1c33c5769a7c1e8e4c0
https://gyazo.com/280151121c551c17e993f2b17a267174
https://gyazo.com/5495f5b07ea52700230f5f7e17bda869
https://gyazo.com/3f5bd9bdc59fb54bd73960dce1083475
https://gyazo.com/6efaff1fc56dc36890efc5726e0b3f04

Here are screenshots of my Spinning Crane Kick usage.
https://gyazo.com/7c3b0376913cfe3d7e3fc840cb819f8f
https://gyazo.com/7c3b0376913cfe3d7e3fc840cb819f8f
https://gyazo.com/7c3b0376913cfe3d7e3fc840cb819f8f

Screenshots from Rising Sun Kick:
https://gyazo.com/5468008e912605d781441c7f89781be0
https://gyazo.com/1229d15d315b38deea904010d846f12b

I could continue these links for the other 3 abilities, but their usage is so infrequent that it would be more difficult to get enough evidence for them in one sitting. Additionally, whether or not they actually proc cinders has less impact than whether or not the aforementioned abilities do as they are not used as much. However, I assure you that they also do not proc Cinders, despite being classified as Melee abilities.

The proc rate of Cinders is not small. There are far too many instances of this to just sum it up to bad luck. If you don't believe the evidence then test it yourself.

Now here are 3 pictures of Faulty Countermeasure usage. As you can see, it procs off of Fists of Fury, Spinning Crane Kick, and Rising Sun Kick as it should.
https://gyazo.com/4e54fdb61e30d75b86ea18340b775fb6
https://gyazo.com/3bf7198fb755f0cd190533e0e6c8f2a4
https://gyazo.com/d94f7712960a9c65201379ff1f4def59

The issue is not Cinders RPPM. With Tiger Palm, Blackout Kick, and melee auto attacks, cinders procs perfectly. However on literally every other WW melee ability listed, cinders does not proc where it should. Faulty Countermeasure however, which should be scripted the exact same way as Cinders is, procs off of all of these abilities just fine. The result is Faulty being outright better than Cinders for WW, and even my 910 faulty outperforms my 930 cinders.

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Post Posted: 26-04-2019, 12:57:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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