[Warlock][Shadow Priest] - DoT refresh mechanics - Bug positive

[Needlegun]

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: http://old.wowhead.com/spell=85104 , http://old.wowhead.com/spell=47581
Descrierea bugului / Bug description:

If u refresh immolate on your target using hand of gul'dan//fel flame,new "refreshed immolate" should scale with buffs//procs u have had while casting hand of gul'dan.Currently, hand of gul'dan just adds duration to the existing DoT and doesnt update DoTs damage//tick speed according to ur buffs//procs

Same goes for shadow priest's shadow word pain and mind flay.

Why is this bug positive?
As the demonology warlock u can pop Metamorphosis,potion,berserk(if ur troll warlock),get all ur trinket procs,apply immolate and then u can roll this "improved immolate" for the entire fight.

Same goes for shadow priests.

Dovada / Proof: Just a quick test on dummy which shows that immolate damage stays exactly the same even after metamorphosis/demon soul/potion/trinkets procs went off.Its possible to do up to 34 k dps and more in bh as demonology warlock and even more with shadow priest.



bh 25 dps screenshot.unfortunately i dont have troll warlock,otherwise dps would be even greater

[TenD]

I suppose that with paladin https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=31801&&name=seal-of-truth you can do the same

[Nemoboyz]

proof that it shuldn't do that ?

[Needlegun]

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4797580146

[SwAp2188]

Is there any proof that this is not how is supposed to work ?
Guess not...

[Needlegun]

too stupid to click the link?or blind?

[SwAp2188]

The link is filled with posts from players, there is no "Blue writing"
that's official blizzard posts.
So let me ask you now: are you too *** stupid to find official blizzard proof?

[Needlegun]

Don't expect find everything in blue posts.Easiest way to check mechanics is making toon on retail and testing mechanics there.But this cant be done atm since retail is already on mop.Though i doubt they changed this mechanic.So the only way to find out how this should work is checking old threads on blizz forums,wow head,elitist jerks etc.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/900011-DoT-Refresh-Question

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/945412-Question-on-DoTs-and-Procs

Yet few more threads which say that DoT refresh spell basically applyes new dot which scales with ur current stats.

[piciupitik]

Code:

unconfirm. The dots once applied need to do the same amount of damage every tick <- This is the actual bug The dots scale with the actual sp/mastery in the moment that the dot ticks. <- This happens on this server That means if your trinket procs and u place bane of doom(for example) it will tick higher when the trinket proc is active. If you were surprised to see a demonology in bh dealing more than 30k in burst, it means that the person just knows to play the spec and nothing more. I mention that with my warlock before magmaw was implemented and with a 359 ilvl(I still remember that day) reached 32k and finished with 24k. If the dots had this positive bug we should have seen a lot many warlocks. "If I have lightweave, volcano card, power torrent, etc [b][u]go off[/u][/b] and then I refresh my dots I know they'll be way more powerful". They do not need to go off. As as mentioned higher "The dots scale with the actual sp/mastery in the moment that the dot ticks" The bug that you are trying to explain does not apply for warlock. I can guarantee this. I do not know about shadow priest, but I think works the same as warlock.

[Zohlomg]

piciupitik wrote:

The dots scale with the actual sp/mastery in the moment that the dot ticks. <- This happens on this server

wanna bet on this?

[Needlegun]

Quote:

The dots scale with the actual sp/mastery in the moment that the dot ticks. <- This happens on this server

This doesnt happen on this server and its easily testable ingame. apply immolate ,use meta and ur immolate wont start doing increased damage unless u recast it.

Bug im reporting is about Hand of gul'dan /other similar dot referesh spells/talents not applying new dot with updated version of ur stats/bufs etc.

Cast immolate,cast meta ,cast hand of guldan - Immolate should become stronger after u refreshed it with hand of guldan,since it now scales with metamorphosis.

Meta falls of,u cast hand of gul'dan - in this case immolate refreshed by hand should become weaker since u didnt have meta when u casted hand of gul'dan

Casting hand of guldan = applying new immolate manually,it should follow similar mechanics AND THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.

Ive seen demo lock doing 34 k dps for entire fight,not just burst moment.Ill post screenshot once i do some bh raid on my lock

[whisperica]

works as intended. when you cast fel flame on target you don't reaply immolate, you just extend it's duration. so it has be the "buffed" immolate, and not a new one since you dont cast a new one.



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[Needlegun]

If it works as intended ,why i cant find any single guide telling me about this?Its not working as intended

[piciupitik]

Zohlomg wrote:

piciupitik wrote: The dots scale with the actual sp/mastery in the moment that the dot ticks. <- This happens on this server wanna bet on this?

HOLY SHIT! YOU FIXED THAT
Well, no bug here guys, everything is under control

Needlegun wrote:

If it works as intended ,why i cant find any single guide telling me about this?Its not working as intended

Well, my friend, increase duration with hand of gul'dan/fel flame != reapply(cast) and not warlock is the class that you do not have your place in top recount, they are balance druids.