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Post Posted: 25-10-2010, 22:36:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am un warlock destro , full pvp , 30% crit chance si urmeaza sa imi iau armele wrath, acum vreau sa va intreb , e de ajuns 30% crit chance sau armele sa le iau cu haste sau cu crit ?
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Post Posted: 26-10-2010, 01:38:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Depinde ce stil de joc ai.
Haste = Damage mic + mult CC
Crit = Burst + mai putin CC
Din acel 30% crit cat ai tu daca dai peste un player cu 1300 resil mai ramai cu vreo 16% crit chance

Personal aleg haste


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Post Posted: 26-10-2010, 03:55:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Timpul si testele ne-au invatat ca haste este de preferat in fata crit-ului. Spre exemplu, warlockul beneficiaza pana si in pve mai mult de pe urma haste-ului decat din crit (asta pana atinge hastecap-ul).

In pvp conteaza mai mult haste-ul pentru ca:

1. GCD redus cat mai mult, adica spam usor de instante
2. Esti mai greu de intrerupt, deoarece castezi mai repede
3. Mai multe fear-uri pe secunda -
4. Decat se te bazezi pe norocul de a prinde un crit, mai bine mergi la sigur si iti formezi damage-ul din mai multe spell-uri castate.
5. Oricum warlock-ul are mult crit din talente


Ca un reper cand sa te opresti din stackat haste, poti lua urmatorul punct de reper: dupa conflagrate, chaos bolt-ul sa il castezi in fix 1 secunda si nu mai putin, adica cat dureaza 1 GCD. Orice cast time sub 1 secunda e irosit din cauza ca GCD nu poate scadea niciodata sub 1.

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Post Posted: 26-10-2010, 06:21:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

haste forever.

Am crit 10% , dar la 800 haste sa vezi cum fac doturile pe enemy :-o



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Post Posted: 26-10-2010, 07:49:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

jupiterestru wrote:
Am crit 10% , dar la 800 haste sa vezi cum fac doturile pe enemy :-o

Omul a zis warlock, nu shadow priest. =)



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Post Posted: 26-10-2010, 08:19:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

blader wrote:
jupiterestru wrote:
Am crit 10% , dar la 800 haste sa vezi cum fac doturile pe enemy :-o

Omul a zis warlock, nu shadow priest. =)



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Post Posted: 26-10-2010, 08:24:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

blader wrote:
jupiterestru wrote:
Am crit 10% , dar la 800 haste sa vezi cum fac doturile pe enemy :-o

Omul a zis warlock, nu shadow priest. =)

Exact, destro pve = crit > haste, destro pvp = haste > crit, parerea mea.
Then again, depinde de modul de joc propriu.


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Post Posted: 26-10-2010, 09:53:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Alma wrote:

Exact, destro pve = crit > haste, destro pvp = haste > crit, parerea mea.
Then again, depinde de modul de joc propriu.



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Take a look at our scale factors before we get going:

Stat    Weight
intellect   0..58
spirit   0.74
crit rating   1.04
spell power   1.54
haste rating   1.56


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Eu unul prefer haste pentru PvP.

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Post Posted: 26-10-2010, 10:47:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu prea se merita pe 3.3.5 sa joci la crit deoarece resilu este mult mai mare ca in patchurile precedente si scade dramatic crit chance -.

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Post Posted: 26-10-2010, 13:32:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Haste e baza la warlock - si in pvp si in pve -
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Post Posted: 26-10-2010, 14:36:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

jkr96 wrote:
Am un warlock destro , full pvp , 30% crit chance si urmeaza sa imi iau armele wrath, acum vreau sa va intreb , e de ajuns 30% crit chance sau armele sa le iau cu haste sau cu crit ?

Posteaza si tu un link cu warlocku ceva, 30% crit probabil ai facut din full crit off-set, asa ca n'are nici un rost sa iti iei arma cu haste.
Amandoua sunt bune in pvp, depinde de stilul fiecaruia, parerea mea e ca e bine e sa ai ~24% crit fara sa iei in considerare talentul de 5%, 1150 resilence + (non-human), si ~3.2k spellpower unbuffed si 500+ haste. Astea ofc considerand ca ai cel putin 5/5 relentless.

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Post Posted: 26-10-2010, 22:40:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Clar crit...toti warlockii pro joaca la crit...de haste nu ai nevoie in pvp.Toti zic asta...uite'te la Zuuku kinzin drakedog etc. Crit>Haste

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Post Posted: 27-10-2010, 07:12:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

undeadrock6 wrote:
Clar crit...toti warlockii pro joaca la crit...de haste nu ai nevoie in pvp.Toti zic asta...uite'te la Zuuku kinzin drakedog etc. Crit>Haste

Sa nu exageram, Zukuu n'a mai jucat de la inceputul S7, Kinzin foloseste haste si Drakedog juca si haste 2.4.3, si folosea haste gear uneori si pe wotlk. Si daca tot o iei cu latura "pro", toti high rated warlocks joaca la haste.

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