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4.0.6. Rogue Subtlety Guide

**CUPRINS**

*Introduction*
*Specs*
*Glyphs*
*Stats*
*Gems*
*Enchants*
*Poisons*
*Addons*
*Macros*








Introduction

Cel mai folosit spec pentru rogue in Cataclysm este Subtlety.
De ce ?
-Mobilitate (Shadowstep )
-Preparation ( Reset la Vanish , Sprint , Shadowstep + [Smoke bomb si Disarm] daca ai gliphul de Preparation)
-Shadow Dance

In noul expansion al celor de la Blizzard Entertainment ( Cataclysm ) , rogue-ul primeste noi abilitati , pe care voi incerca sa le explic mai jos.

Smoke Bombhttps://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=76577 (wowhead link)
-Spell-ul acesta este probabil cel mai folositor pentru un rogue , cu el poti sa faci o diversitate de lucruri:
*Dai smoke bomb-ul in locul in care e target-ul tau asfel incat acesta sa nu poate primi heal.
*Dai smoke bomb-ul locul in care e target-ul tau asfel incat sa nu fi atacat de range dps in timp ce il burstezi.
*Dai smoke bomb-ul locul in care e un amic asfel incat acesta sa nu fie atacat de range dps cand e low hp.
*Dai smoke bomb-ul ca sa nu poti fi atacat de un range dps si incerci sa fortezi un stealth.
*Dai smoke bomb-ul ca sa eviti CC.
Note:Daca in smoke bomb se afla 2 inamici , acestia isi pot da heal.
Daca in smoke bomb se afla melee , acestia te pot ataca.




Recuperatehttps://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=73651 (wowhead link)
-Heal-ul rogue-ului , eu il tin mereu sus.

Redirecthttps://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=73981 (wowhead link)
-Faci combo points pe un target , schimbi target-ul , castezi Redirect si primesti combo points-urile pe noul target.

Combat Readinesshttps://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74001 (wowhead link)
-Bun contra melee / hunteri , dar si contra petilor de la hunter/lock/priest care dau physical damage.

Specs

Spec-urile cele mai folosite:

8/2/31(Spec de supravietuire)http://www.wowhead.com/talent#fchbZbZfGccdkcRho
8/2/31(Spec intre supravietuire si damage mare )http://wowtal.com/#k=kKjSHNCb_.b0w.rogue.
10/0/31(Spec pentru damage mai mare ca primele doua , desi sansele de supravietuire sunt mai mici )http://wowtal.com/#k=Yf2sdQc0d.b0w.rogue.


Glyphs

Astea vad ca sunt cele mai folosite si cele mai bune.

Prime:Glyph of Backstabhttp://www.wowhead.com/item=42956
Glyph of Hemorrhagehttp://www.wowhead.com/item=42967
Glyph of Shadow Dancehttp://www.wowhead.com/item=45764


Major:Glyph of Preparationhttp://www.wowhead.com/item=42968
Glyph of Blindhttp://www.wowhead.com/item=64493
Glyph of Garrotehttp://www.wowhead.com/item=42964

Minor:aici poti folosi ce doresti , eu personal folosesc glyph of sprinthttp://www.wowhead.com/item=42974


Stats

Stats-urile prioritare pentru subtlety sunt : hit 5% > crit > haste > mastery > expertise
Nu dai reforge la hit decat daca ai peste 5% , pe fiecare item pe care ai deja crit dai reforge la haste.

Gems

Meta

+54 Agility and 3% Increased Critical Damagehttp://www.wowhead.com/item=68778
+54 Crit Rating and 1% Spell Reflect https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=73472 (wowhead link)

Sincer eu prefer +54 Agility si 3% Increased Critical Damage.

Red
+40 Agility https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=73336 (wowhead link)

Orange

+20 Agility and +20 Increased Critical Strike Damage http://www.wowhead.com/item=52209
+20 Agility and +20 Haste Rating https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=73368 (wowhead link)

Purple
+20 Agility and +20 Hit Rating https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=73357 (wowhead link)

Okay , daca nu ai destul hit ( 5 % ) bagi d-astea , daca ai 5% bagi +40 Agility in slot-urile Purple.




Enchants

Head+65 Agility and +35 Resiliencehttps://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=73357 (wowhead link) - Il cumperi cu 1000 honor din Stormwind / Orgrimmar sau cu 40 marks de Tol Barad.(Se merita mai mult pe honor zic eu .)
Shoulders+50 Agility and +25 resilience rating http://www.wowhead.com/item=68774
Cloak+65 Critical Strike ratinghttps://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74247 (wowhead link)
+50 Critical Strike ratinghttps://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74247 (wowhead link)
+22 Agilityhttps://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=60663 (wowhead link)
Chest+20 Stats https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74250 (wowhead link)
+ 20 Resilience https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74214 (wowhead link)
Legs+190 Attack Power and + 55 Critical Strike Rating http://www.wowhead.com/item=56550
Hands+50 Haste Rating https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74198 (wowhead link)
Bracers+65 Haste Rating https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74256 (wowhead link)
+50 Critical Strike Rating https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74201 (wowhead link)
+50 Agilityhttps://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=96264 (wowhead link)
Boots + 35 Agility https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74213 (wowhead link)
Main Weapon 1000 Attack Power Proc https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74246 (wowhead link)
Off-hand Pyrium Weapon Chain - reduce efectul disarmului si ofera 40 Hit https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=74246 (wowhead link)

Poisons

Main Hand Aici poti sa folosesti Wound Poison ( reduce healing-ul pe target cu 10% ) , Mind Nubing ( mareste cast time-ul target-ului cu 30 % ) sau poti sa folosesti Instant Poison pentru mai mult damage.
Off-handAici pui neaparat Crippling ( 70 % slow pe target )
ThrownCrippling (Dai fan of knives si pui crippling pe toti din jur)

Addons

O mica lista cu addon-urile care ma ajuta pe mine in pvp.

1.Gladiatus(cred ca toata lumea il stie)
2.Combo Watch ( setezi unde sa iti apara niste cifre care corespund cu valoarea combo points-urilor)
3.TidyPlates (arata debuff-urile inamicilor deasupra lor si cool name plates )
4.GladiatorlosSA(pur si simplu' te anunta prin voce cand un inamic foloseste vreun cooldown gen:Recklesness , Trinket , Shadow Dance , sau cand casteaza un CC )

Macros

Macrourile care mi se par cele mai utile.

Sap
Code:
/cleartarget
/targetenemyplayer
/cast Sap


Tricks of the Trade

Code:
/cast [target=(numele.celui.pe.care.vrei.sa.castezi.)] Tricks of The trade



Shadow Dance macro

Macro-ul acesta e foarte bun , mai ales daca targetul este sub 60% HP , e posibil sa il omori.

Code:
/use **Trinket**
/cast Shadowstep
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Ambush


**Trinket**=http://www.wowhead.com/item=61033

Dupa ce dai primul Ambush , spam-eaza Ambush-ul pana iesi din Shadow Dance.
Poate te intrebi de ce dam aiurea Shadowstepu'?Pai shadowstepu' da un buff cand il dai care da increase la critical strike de la Ambush daca nu ma insel.
E optim sa folosesti macro-ul asta cand esti full energy ca sa poti prinde sigur 3 Ambush-uri(fiecare o sa fie intre 15-35k poate si mai mult depinde de gearul tau dar si de gearul adversarului.)

Code:
#showtooltip
/cast [mod:shift,@focus,harm,nodead][]Blind


Code:
#showtooltip
/cast [mod:shift,@focus,harm,nodead][]Gouge


Code:
#showtooltip
/cast [mod:shift,@focus,harm,nodead][]Kick


Code:
#showtooltip
/cast [mod:shift,@focus,harm,nodead][]Sap

(asta e bun in Shadow Dance, daca focus target nu e in combat)

Code:
#showtooltip
/cast [mod:shift,@focus,harm,nodead][]Redirect
/cast [mod:shift,@focus,harm,nodead][]Kidney Shot







Sper ca ghidul acesta o sa fie de folos , bafta tuturor in Cataclysm -
Daca am comis vreo eventuala greseala va rog sa ma atentionati -



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QUESTION: Waylay ( talent ) nu ar trebui pus la rogue ? Pentru ca in PVP de obicei te ajuta slowurile , mai ales versus hunteri/casteri(healeri in special , dar si dps - te invarti in jurul lor si nu au timp sa se departeze de tine) dar si de melee (cand fug de tine la low HP , cand esti in shadowdance si incearca sa se indeparteze sau cand fugi tu de ei sa incerci restealth)

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vai mama ce'o sa rupa rogu -
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Bun tutorialul , dar mai zpwner , pune si tu videourile alea pe care le-ai facut , sa vedem si noi cum se joaca rogue in cataclysm
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Apathy wrote:
QUESTION: Waylay ( talent ) nu ar trebui pus la rogue ? Pentru ca in PVP de obicei te ajuta slowurile , mai ales versus hunteri/casteri(healeri in special , dar si dps - te invarti in jurul lor si nu au timp sa se departeze de tine) dar si de melee (cand fug de tine la low HP , cand esti in shadowdance si incearca sa se indeparteze sau cand fugi tu de ei sa incerci restealth)


Prefer sa folosesc crippling pe off si pe thrown -


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Good work,

totusi, am o intrebare...

dintre Feral Druid si Rogue care ti se pare mai bun? - stiu ca fiecare dintre aceste 2 clase necesita un anumit stil de joc, dar, dupa tine, care e mai puternic in PvP ?

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Daca intrebi un rogue o sa iti zica sa joci rogue , daca intrebi un feral o sa iti zica sa joci feral , eu te sfatuiesc sa joci ce iti place si ce sti sa joci , e destul de echilibrat 4.0.6. , joaca ce iti place mai mult si o sa ai succes !
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In afara faptului ca esti printre putinii playeri care au habar cu rogue,te rog uitate si la mine la topic,ca si eu am facut tot rogue sub pvp. Si spunemi daca e bine...e pe pagina 2. :)

Posturi unite automat, 07-09-2011, 08:44:27

Am observat ceva,crippling pe off? daca te iei dupa buildu meu,si joci la backstab +waylay....deja are slow,eu joc la wound si instant pt melee si mindnumbing pe throw(uneori in arene e gen healer+melee) si trebuie,si daca e vs casteri,schimb poisonu dupa throw cu ala dupa main deagger.

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Am aruncat o privire peste topicul tau.Prefer sa dau recuperate in loc de SnD , de cele mai multe ori e tinuta presiune pe rogue , iar pe offhand trebuie Pyrium weapon chain care e mana cereasca , reducand efectul disarmului , in rest pare ok.
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da stiam ce trebuie pe off,dar pe cataclysm nu gaseasm cum se numeste,pe wotlk stiu ca era titanium weapon chain,pe cata nu gaseam...
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Introduction

Cel mai folosit spec pentru rogue in Cataclysm este Subtlety.
De ce ?
-Mobilitate (Shadowstep )
-Preparation ( Reset la Vanish , Sprint , Shadowstep + [Smoke bomb si Disarm] daca ai gliphul de Preparation)
-Shadow Dance ....
nea ...this is bullshit. de ce ai alege sub rogue ? 15-20k *** BACKSTAB

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am observat ca toate 3 spec-urile au cheat death.se merita asa mult talentul ala?al doilea spec nu are find weakness cea ce mi se pare un dezavantaj
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walea wrote:
am observat ca toate 3 spec-urile au cheat death.se merita asa mult talentul ala?al doilea spec nu are find weakness cea ce mi se pare un dezavantaj


Cheat death-ul acela te poate salva in cele mai multe cazuri si poti schimba situatia mai ales daca te trosneste si tickul de la recuperate - ... deci DA .. it's a must Cheat Death.



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tynir22 wrote:
walea wrote:
am observat ca toate 3 spec-urile au cheat death.se merita asa mult talentul ala?al doilea spec nu are find weakness cea ce mi se pare un dezavantaj


Cheat death-ul acela te poate salva in cele mai multe cazuri si poti schimba situatia mai ales daca te trosneste si tickul de la recuperate - ... deci DA .. it's a must Cheat Death.


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