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Post Posted: 09-11-2011, 18:54:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

rythmic wrote:
@ vbmv zici ca nu joci feral ci "App Joc hunter" da faci post cu bug report la ravage de care se stia de cand a bagat cata ca e buggy
my point: u troll of the topic
ontopic: e ceva neregula cu mangle deoarece am dat 20k crit pe unu player cu cel putin 2.8k rezil si am un druid full verde si cateva iteme pe rep Trololol

Joc pe hunter mai mult ca sa intelegi mai bine. Feral doar de fun.
Care e problema daca joc feral ? Nu am voie mai mult de o clasa ?
Nu vad problema atata timp cat TRINKETUL asta e OP (daca pot sa-i zic asa)!

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Post Posted: 10-11-2011, 16:46:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Anyway this bug was fixed in 2 hot fixes one in 4.0.6 mainly because of op scaling for ferals , then they removed the Damage to ap in 4.2 because its too much :o

http://www.wowhead.com/item=59520/unheeded-warning#comments


if it keep being abused the trinket can be disabled until being fixed

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Post Posted: 10-11-2011, 17:12:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

lasati ca si druidul feral si warrioru fury dau prea tare,dar nu comentez ptr ca nu am dovezi ,dar parerea mea este ca fury este sub orice critica 40k crit pe 3.5 resil ,si asta fiind doar un hit,adik oamenilor nu imi explic ce echilibru poate fi intre clase cand un warr fury ma omoara in 2secunde daca sta langa mine .AWESOME!!
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Post Posted: 10-11-2011, 17:20:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

omgomg wrote:
lasati ca si druidul feral si warrioru fury dau prea tare,dar nu comentez ptr ca nu am dovezi ,dar parerea mea este ca fury este sub orice critica 40k crit pe 3.5 resil ,si asta fiind doar un hit,adik oamenilor nu imi explic ce echilibru poate fi intre clase cand un warr fury ma omoara in 2secunde daca sta langa mine .AWESOME!!


Un warn pt acest player daca se poate eu nu vad nimic postat de Shay in topicul lui legat de warrior fury

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Post Posted: 12-11-2011, 04:24:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

omule mangle = 460% weapon damage + ceva ap

fara unheeded warning / tf 1230 dps
http://www.picz.ro/pictures/955b399e1c9b242b7d90644cffbf09bf.jpg

unheeded warning
http://www.picz.ro/pictures/672843dc9bb323ea7c28df3757536791.jpg

tf + unheeded
http://www.picz.ro/pictures/ebc845883e81d5c31760aac6848a1569.jpg

daca cu unheeded warning proc + tf aproape dublezi dps nu ti se pare normal sa dea mai mult ? pana la nerf unheeded warning o sa fie BIS pt feral druid pentru ca ajuta enorm un feral druid

sa stii si tu weapon damage = best stat pt druid deaia primeste asa mult damage mangle

PS pe 0 armor orice super druid o sa dea 45k mangle pana si eu
pe 10k armor si 4k resil nu am trecut de 12k crit




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Post Posted: 14-11-2011, 01:36:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Dadea azi un feral in arena cu 20k per second si am 3600 res.. golden , nus probleme la freakz sunt probleme la blizz dau aia prea putin damage.

Ete rahat , daca ne-am lua toti dupa copii am ajunge in gradinita , la 9.
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Post Posted: 14-11-2011, 10:02:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

mcandrew wrote:
Dadea azi un feral in arena cu 20k per second si am 3600 res.. golden , nus probleme la freakz sunt probleme la blizz dau aia prea putin damage.

N-are cum. Poate 50k/sec pe 4k resil, suna mai plauzibil.Rolling Eyes

Doamne ce va mai place sa exagerati sa mor eu...
Da un print cu combat log, sa vad cum iti luai tu 20k/sec.

La warr, boomkin, spriest, mag, frost dk vad ca v-ati resemnat in privinta dmg-ului.
Cand o sa nerfuiasca druidu feral doar pt ca habar n-aveti voi cum sa-l bateti, oare de cine va mai luati? -

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Post Posted: 14-11-2011, 18:50:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Chiar va convine sa dea feralul la fel ca un fury war , e frumos jocu asa - eh , nu are rost sa ceri pe un privat pt ca totusi nai dreptul acesta , dar un pic de blizzlike balance nu strica.

Ete rahat , daca ne-am lua toti dupa copii am ajunge in gradinita , la 9.
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Post Posted: 14-11-2011, 20:13:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ok hai sa va explic care "cred" eu ca este problema.



Max. Weapon Damage / Weapon Speed + Attack Power/14

2693/3.60 + 13134 /14 = 748 + 938 = 1686

Insa eu am 1267.In primul rand am wep dmg mai mic decat trebuie din calcul.

In al 2 rand, trinketul de wep dmg adauga 680% wep dmg la acel 1267, rezultand 1947 wep dmg. Din cate am calculat si am testat, asta ar putea fi problema. Daca acel 680% s-ar adauga la dmg armei initial, ar venii cam 200 dmg in plus in char screen, nu 680. Repet nu stiu daca este corect ceea ce spun, insa asta ar putea fi problema.

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Post Posted: 14-11-2011, 23:12:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

BIS Gear in 4.0.6 ! Nu e vina noastra ca blizz a facut trinketul asta ! Parerea mea e ca nu trinketul e de vina ci Weapon DMG la druid, in general. E un post in legatura cu asta ! Cu sau fara arma am aproape aceleas valori, diferenta fiind nejustificata !
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Post Posted: 15-11-2011, 15:55:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Voi posta aici formula pentru Mangle si cum ar trebui sa interactioneze cu Unheeded Warning.
Este doar un exemplu care arata unde ar trebui sa se ajunga odata ce se va rezolva problema
cu Normalized Weapon Damage. Din cate aflat formula pentru Mangle pe patch 4.0.6 este:

Mangle = 460% Weapon Damage + Base Damage
Base Damage cred ca este ~1800, dar va fi nevoie de o confrmare aici. (nu am sursa oficiala)

Normalized Weapon damage se calculeaza pornind de la arma echipata:
Max. Normalized Damage = Max Weapon Damage / Weapon Speed + Attack Power /14
Min. Normalized Damage = Min Weapon Damage / Weapon Speed + Attack Power /14

Exemplu concret pe un Druid cu Vicious Gladiator's Staff si 13.000AP
Max Normalized Damage = 1497/2 + 13000/14 = 749 + 928 = 1677
Min Normalized Damage = 997/2 + 1300/14 = 1427

De aici ar rezulta, fara glyph, Max Mangle = 1677*4.6 + 1800 = 9514 si respectiv Min Mangle = 8364

Acum sa presupunem ca druidul are Unheeded Warning echipat si buff activ.
Bonusul se aplica la Normalized Weapon damage, nu inainte. Daca s-ar aplica inainte ar fi afectat
de Weapon Speed, ceea ce ar insemna ca o arma de 3.6s ar primi o contributile mai mica decat una de 2s

Max Normalized Weapon Damage = 1677 + 680 = 2357
Max Mangle = 2357 * 4.6 + 1800 = 12642

Daca adaugam si Glyph => Max Mangle hit ~ 14k damage

Cum spuneam, aceste calcule au doar scop demonstrativ.
Asteptati fix la Normalized Weapon Damage, abia apoi retestati Mangle si Unheeded Warning.

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Post Posted: 29-11-2011, 17:30:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Uitati dmg doar cu trinketul echipat valorile minime care le vedeti acolo sunt fara proc cele maxime cu proc (logic)

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Post Posted: 06-12-2011, 11:54:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Deci din pozele alea vad ca un naked druid cu unheeded warning da 20k per spell crit ?! serios vorbind iar nu-s probleme deloc?! ffs... desi era foarte clar din ce a postat shay ca exista o problema nu inteleg de ce anume nu se ia in considerare ce se intampla , pe orice char par naked in fata druidului feral daca trollati mesajele nu o face mai putin adevarata .

Ete rahat , daca ne-am lua toti dupa copii am ajunge in gradinita , la 9.
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Post Posted: 06-12-2011, 12:12:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Problema este mai complexa de atat, pentru ca bugul major al druidului este ca nu se bazeaza pe dmg-ul armei si este facut un post in acest sens. Cat priveste trinketul, e un pic OP, insa asa este pe patchul asta, nu i s-a adus hotfit.
Edit: am testat acum,am dat maxim 23.2k pe dummy cu 2k ressi si 20k armura (trinketul si Tigers Fury activat) la 360ilvl

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Post Posted: 06-12-2011, 14:33:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Fix this ASAP I'm tired of being blown up during an opener puonce....
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