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Post Posted: 28-03-2012, 11:23:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=49542&&name=blood-parasite
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Nu cunosc DKul, dar cum e posibil ca un dk sa scoata atat heal?- banuiesc ca e de la acei blood worms(care au suferit un fix recent), cu toate ca nu apare in recount cat da un worm, in timpul raidului se putea vedea cum raidul primeste 40k heal instant.
E normal asa ceva??
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Post Posted: 28-03-2012, 12:12:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Din ce am observat pe blizz in bgs, primesc ~ 13/14k heal in cat form (heal increase).



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Post Posted: 28-03-2012, 14:39:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nerdstomper wrote:
Din ce am observat pe blizz in bgs, primesc ~ 13/14k heal in cat form (heal increase).

Uhm....what? nu inteleg ce vrei sa zici sau ce legatura are...explica pls.

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Post Posted: 28-03-2012, 14:56:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Allybetrayer better tell us how u have guardian and battle elixir on you while having flask and how u have increased haste for nourishes when u haven't used rejuvenation for the last 1 minute.... - .
Now on topic - blood parasite are insane on this fight cause they heal in 8 yards range. The script is not blizzlike and every guild is stacking in one place which cause the worms to heal that much. Try to do the normal tactic and see the healing again -



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Allybetrayer wrote:
Uhm....what? nu inteleg ce vrei sa zici sau ce legatura are...explica pls.


Ce am zis asa greu de inteles? Eu pe blizz in bgs primesc intre 13k-14k heal de la un rahat de vierme in cat form.




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Allybetrayer better tell us how u have guardian and battle elixir on you while having flask and how u have increased haste for nourishes when u haven't used rejuvenation for the last 1 minute.... - .
Now on topic - blood parasite are insane on this fight cause they heal in 8 yards range. The script is not blizzlike and every guild is stacking in one place which cause the worms to heal that much. Try to do the normal tactic and see the healing again -

First...its not guardian and battle elixir its parfume from the event-love is in the air - so no stacking elixierz with flasks there.
Second.... 1 minute? you can see a rejuve still ticking on moonte in the raid frame party5, and what does this matter? what druid on cataclysm uses nourish? srsly?especially in that fight on freakz.
@honorless 13k on catform, but it took 3 seconds to fill the raid up- 36-40k instantly, also i can't see this heal in the recount...
Da prea mult heal, macar sa vina un fix sa arate in recount cat se da pe tick.
O sa caut un dk blood sa vad ce scrie in combat log.

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Post Posted: 28-03-2012, 17:19:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yeah maybe i am the only druid that use nourish in cata - ( not so much but still using it). Aren't the perfumes usable only during event time?
As for the fight as i said its that much because its not scripted blizzlike. As u all know there the caustic slime leave u on 1 HP after it hits - here its not and is divided among all members. On retail our stacking tactics would cause wipe after wipe or atleast hitting the enrage timer.
Use skada and you will see the healing from bloodworms.



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Post Posted: 29-03-2012, 11:49:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)



12k in cat form.




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Post Posted: 29-03-2012, 14:47:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nerdstomper wrote:


12k in cat form.


How many stacks the worm had when it healed for 12 k? You can't see this thing -
As i remember the worm have 25% of the death knight health and each stack heals for 10% of the worm's life. So i can only guess that on the picture u posted its on 2 stacks. ( 202k x 0.25=50.5k HP worm -> 2 stacks are 11k and 20 % from cat's talents should be 13,2 but still somewhere around it )



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Post Posted: 31-03-2012, 11:54:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Offf ce tot aveti cu dk ?

1 vierme de ala se spawneaza cu 20% Hp la dk, si cand moare da heal la toti cei din jur cu cu 10% din HP viermelui , ceea ce nu intelegi tu "De unde frate atata heal? "
- un vierme aduna niste stackuri pe el maxim 10
- iar acel 10% heal din HP viermelui e inmultit cu stackurile care le aduna
- In acest caz e posibil ca un vierme sa ajunga la 10 stackuri ceea ce inseamna ca va da 100% din HP lui la toti care sunt in raza lui max fiind 8y
- si un vierme de ala da heal in momentul in care aduna 10 stackuri sau dupa ce trec 20sec .


Iar in printul tau ... fiind 25 de oameni stakati unu peste altu si acei viermi dau heal aoe pe cei ce se afla in 8y fata de ei (nu stiu la acel dk dar la mine dau cate 25k-30k cand mor fa si tu niste calcule,


25 persoane * 27k heal = 650k heal ODATA

Iar un dk are la un combat de genul 3 viermi cam tot timpul pe langa el daca nu si mai mult, si daca se mai intampla sa scoata 2 viermi odata care mor in acelasi timp .... cred ca iti dai seama ce heal iese.

P.S. Exact nu stiu cat au HP viermii am gasit 2 variante diferite pe battle.net intr-un post ziceau ceva de 20% in alt post de 35% ... don HP la master.

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Post Posted: 01-04-2012, 03:21:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

poate sunt invidiosi ca dk poate fi intr-un raid Tank/Dps si Healer -)
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Post Posted: 01-04-2012, 15:16:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

- you can have more than one worm at a time (maximum of 4, normally 2 - 3)
- The worms roughly have 16 to 20 percent of your life, meaning they scale with stamina and heals get bigger if you have more health.
- Their heals can crit and affect the whole raid, meaning their value increases in 10 mans and 25 man raids. However, their burst has a range of 15 yards, so it mainly affects meelees
- blood parasites are guardians and try to meelee the boss from behind, meaning that, if the boss has a huge hitbox, their heals won't affect your or any player infront of the boss
- their time of bursting is somewhat random, mostly between 8 and 11 stacks
- the parasite's tooltip is showing the wrong value, it's not 10% per stack, it's 5% of the worm's health
- worms can procc from all attacks (auto-hits and meelee-styles), meaning that Heart Strike's chance to procc is 3 times higher than for instance the chance of rune strike
- it seems that blood caked blade does not procc blood parasites, infact it doesn't procc any on-hit abilities




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Post Posted: 01-04-2012, 16:49:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Knivez wrote:
- you can have more than one worm at a time (maximum of 4, normally 2 - 3)
- The worms roughly have 16 to 20 percent of your life, meaning they scale with stamina and heals get bigger if you have more health.
- Their heals can crit and affect the whole raid, meaning their value increases in 10 mans and 25 man raids. However, their burst has a range of 15 yards, so it mainly affects meelees
- blood parasites are guardians and try to meelee the boss from behind, meaning that, if the boss has a huge hitbox, their heals won't affect your or any player infront of the boss
- their time of bursting is somewhat random, mostly between 8 and 11 stacks
- the parasite's tooltip is showing the wrong value, it's not 10% per stack, it's 5% of the worm's health
- worms can procc from all attacks (auto-hits and meelee-styles), meaning that Heart Strike's chance to procc is 3 times higher than for instance the chance of rune strike
- it seems that blood caked blade does not procc blood parasites, infact it doesn't procc any on-hit abilities



This is for freakz i guess cause the retail numbers are not these.



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