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Post Posted: 30-04-2012, 19:26:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=78204 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Dmg mai mare decat trebuie.
Dovada / Proof:
http://shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?f=72&&t=30989

Base damage: 485.8

SP Coefficient: 0.515



+15% shadow power

Trebuia sa dau 2300+ dar dau 2500. Cu cat ai mai mult gear cu atat devine mai mare diferenta.

LE: S-a descoperit ca ignora si resil :

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Post Posted: 30-04-2012, 20:27:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Confirm! am calculat si eu si da este diferenta de ~ 500 dmg...avand in vedere ca el este lvl 83 si are si sp scazut, la lvl 85 un priest gearat ar putea avea diferente enorme chair si de 3k dmg


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interesant de faptu ca dau miss si nu pot fi targetate nu se zice?-
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Amore wrote:
interesant de faptu ca dau miss si nu pot fi targetate nu se zice?-


Nu prea am jucat pe shadow ca sa apuc sa vad miss la ele:) dar totusi dmgu este prea mare



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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 10:28:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

toti inapti se apuca sa posteze,
tu iti dai seama ca in formula unui spell nu intra doar base dmg si spell power coeficient,
esti constient ca sunt o multitudine de alti factori care influenteaza dmg?
cum ar fi :

Shadow form ,
Shadow Power,
Twin disciplines,
Mastery,
Shadow Orbs,
Evanghelism,
Dark Archangel

Nu zic ca influenteaza toate , unele sunt multiplicative , altele aditive. E usor sa vi pe forum sa zici "mi se pare ca da prea mult dmg spellu x" trantesti acolo un base dmg si un spell power coeficient. CALCULEAZA in functie de toti factorii , fa rost de formula de dmg pentru spellul respectiv , dupa demonsteaza ca ai dreptate, si vei fi luat in considerare.

In lincul prezentat de tine nu apare niciunde nici un calcul pentru SHADOWY APARITION!
revino cu dovezi mai concrete

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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 10:44:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

dreiv wrote:
toti inapti se apuca sa posteze,
tu iti dai seama ca in formula unui spell nu intra doar base dmg si spell power coeficient,
esti constient ca sunt o multitudine de alti factori care influenteaza dmg?
cum ar fi :

Shadow form ,
Shadow Power,
Twin disciplines,
Mastery,
Shadow Orbs,
Evanghelism,
Dark Archangel

Nu zic ca influenteaza toate , unele sunt multiplicative , altele aditive. E usor sa vi pe forum sa zici "mi se pare ca da prea mult dmg spellu x" trantesti acolo un base dmg si un spell power coeficient. CALCULEAZA in functie de toti factorii , fa rost de formula de dmg pentru spellul respectiv , dupa demonsteaza ca ai dreptate, si vei fi luat in considerare.

In lincul prezentat de tine nu apare niciunde nici un calcul pentru SHADOWY APARITION!
revino cu dovezi mai concrete


Daca nu vezi din ss el n-a folosit nimic din ce ai zis tu mai sus...shadowform orbs etc



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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 11:41:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Totusi cand am zis "astept sa mi se arate unde am gresit , daca am gresit" , nu ma refeream sa vina toti ratatii (/point dreiv) sa imi faca pomelnic cu toate dmg increaseurile pe care eu nu le-am folosit. Eu ziceam sa nu fi omis ceva, nu sa vi tu un lesinat sa ma inveti pe mine cum se calculeaza, care am facut mai multe bug reports decat tot neamu tau la un loc. Schimba dioptriile mosule.

dreiv wrote:
toti inapti


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dreiv wrote:
Nu zic ca influenteaza toate


Pentru ca esti habarnist si nu iti sti clasa. Acum arata daca e ceva gresit or gtfo.




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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 12:59:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

TALENTS....
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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 13:14:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nerdstomper wrote:
nu sa vi tu un lesinat


Lb. romana 1 - 0 Nerdstomper Dosent Matter

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*** yea
arnisgd wrote:
TALENTS....




I dont like retards , so dont talk shit pls.




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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 16:08:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quote din postul autorului postului initial de pe sursa mentionata de tine:

"I've also updated the spell damage & coefficients to reflect the changes in patch 4.2." - este pe pagina 2.


deasemenea, ultimul post din topicul mentionat de tine:

"BTW,Shadowform does NOT increase the damage of Shadow Fiend,but it will effect Shadowy Apparitions."


esti sigur ca cele mentionate de tine sunt adevarate pe 4.0.6? si ca nu iti afecteaza shadowform valoarea data?




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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 16:26:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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1. Am cautat pe toate siteurile si nu exista nici o modificare la sp coeff. Daca tu o gasesti esti invitatul meu sa o postezi.
2. Ma vezi cumva pe mine in shadowform?




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ciberandy wrote:
Quote din postul autorului postului initial de pe sursa mentionata de tine:

"I've also updated the spell damage & coefficients to reflect the changes in patch 4.2." - este pe pagina 2.


deasemenea, ultimul post din topicul mentionat de tine:

"BTW,Shadowform does NOT increase the damage of Shadow Fiend,but it will effect Shadowy Apparitions."


esti sigur ca cele mentionate de tine sunt adevarate pe 4.0.6? si ca nu iti afecteaza shadowform valoarea data?


El nu a folosit shadowform..doamne



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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 19:27:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ok, hai sa calculez si eu folosind formula de la mind blast, nu cred ca shadowy aparition e DoT, corect? si ma corectezi tu unde pun valorile gresit, da?


(Base_damage + (Spell_Coefficient * Spellpower)) * Raid_Damage_Buff * Shadow_Power * Twisted_Faith * Shadowform * Twin_Disciplines * (((0.0145 * Mastery + 0.1) * Shadow_Orbs) + Dark_Archangel)

cazul meu:

SP=6172
Mastery=12.68

fara shadowform

Raid damage buff=1 -nu am nimic activ
Shadow Power=1.25 la noi pe patch
Twisted faith=1.02 (2 puncte bagate)
Shadowform=1
twin disciplines=1.06 (3 puncte bagate)
Shadow orbs=1
Dark archangel=1 - nu afecteaza decat Mind Flay

Damage formula:

(486+(0.515*6172))*1*1.25*1.02*1*1.06*(((0.0145*12.68+0.1)*1)+1)=

(486+3178.58)*1.3515*(((0.1838+0.1)*1)+1)=

=3664.58*1.3515*1.2838=

=6358.25


tooltipul talentului zice ca da 4508 damage, in log dau 4491 damage




cazul tau:

SP=3077
Mastery=10.32

Raid damage buff=1 -nu ai nimic activ
Shadow Power=1.25 la noi pe patch
Twisted faith=1.02 (2 puncte bagate)
Shadowform=1
twin disciplines=1 (fara puncte bagate)
Shadow orbs=1
Dark archangel=1 - nu afecteaza decat Mind Flay

Damage formula:

(486+(0.515*3077))*1*1.25*1.02*1*1*(((0.0145*10.32+0.1)*1)+1)=


2077*1.275*1.2496=3309.26



Eu sunt de parere ca de fapt dau mai putin, unde am gresit la calcule?




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Post Posted: 01-05-2012, 20:12:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ciberandy wrote:
ok, hai sa calculez si eu folosind formula de la mind blast

Glumesti acum? -))))

Nici nu stau sa citesc macar ce ai scris in pomelnicu' ala. Daca avea formula de calcul ca celelalte spells exista in topicul ala. Iti calculez si eu dmg de la mind spike cu formula de la frostbolt. How about that?

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Eu sunt de parere ca de fapt dau mai putin.

Parerea mea nu cred ca vrei sa o stii.




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