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Post Posted: 14-08-2012, 16:29:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Descrierea bugului / Bug description: da damage increase mai mult decat ar trebui(vreo ~30% in total), plus ca trebuie sa fie aditiv cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=31868 (wowhead link) nu multiplicativ !
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http://eu.battle.net/wow/de/forum/topic/1415207729
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/829510-A-little-summary-for-Retribution-and-Protection-Paladins!
http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t106276-retribution_concordance_4_0_1_a/
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Glyph of Templar's Verdict only provides ~11.5% increase, not 15% increase. This is because it is additive with Crusade (1.3 + 1.15 = 1.45) not multiplicative (1.3 * 1.15 = 1.495).


Screenshots damage:
http://i47.tinypic.com/10da2ie.jpg fara glyph, se vede arma folosita, si damage-ul la 10 hituri.
http://i50.tinypic.com/xpzvoy.jpg cu glyph, se vede si arma folosita, damage tot la 10 hituri.

Calcule:
weapon damage = base_weapon_damage + (3.3 * Attack Power / 14)
arma are dmg 31-47 speed 3.3; iar eu am 7811 ap
weapon damage= (31+47)/2 + (3.3 * 7811/14) = 1880.16. Deci eu am avut weapon damage 1880.16 in screenshots

Templar's verdict la 3 holy power va avea damage = 235% weapon damage
Mai avem de adaugat 2h specialization: 20% dmg
Crusade: 30%
Glyph: 15%

Damage average fara glyph: 1880.16 * 2.35 * 1.2 * 1.3 = 6892.66 damage. In screenshot se poate vedea la average ca am dat ~6950.
Damage cu glyph ar fi trebuit sa dau: 1880.16 * 2.35 * 1.2 * (1.3+1.15) = 7687.97. In screenshot am dat 9200+, adica cu 20% mai mult.
Daca as calcula fara sa fie aditiv si tot ar trebui sa dea dmg mai mic: 1880.16 * 2.35 * 1.2 * 1.3 * 1.15 = 7926.55. In screenshot cu 15% mai mult.


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Post Posted: 19-08-2012, 12:12:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Da, foarte bine construit complainul. Vroiam sa fac si eu un bug report la Glyph of Templar`s Verdict si Crusade. Ar trebui sa fie 310% weapon dmg cu 3 charge-uri (glyph + perk), nu 235%. Se pierde ENORM de mult dps din cauza asta.
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Post Posted: 19-08-2012, 12:58:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tu ori nu ai citit primul post ori nu pricep la ce te referi.....Tu nu vezi ma nene ca a calculat omu sus acolo si damageul este prea mare? Cum poti sa vii tu sa spui ca treb sa ii mai bage inca 75% weapon dmg acolo ?
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Post Posted: 19-08-2012, 13:09:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am pierdut timpul sa citesc primele 3 link care le-ai pus . Sunt dupa 4.0.1 . Apropo in primul link se vorbeste despre exo...

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Post Posted: 19-08-2012, 14:24:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@ Mr. Faith... gg cu postu'. Asta ar explica hiturile templar care sunt mult mai mari decat alea de pe 4.3.
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Post Posted: 19-08-2012, 16:21:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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@ Mr. Faith... gg cu postu'. Asta ar explica hiturile templar care sunt mult mai mari decat alea de pe 4.3.

De aia ieri in arena am primit un mare templar de 46k de mi-a tiuit urechile de la mister warspy . GG de post !



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Post Posted: 19-08-2012, 16:26:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

trilulilu wrote:
Ownatdebot2 wrote:
@ Mr. Faith... gg cu postu'. Asta ar explica hiturile templar care sunt mult mai mari decat alea de pe 4.3.

De aia ieri in arena am primit un mare templar de 46k de mi-a tiuit urechile de la mister warspy . GG de post !

pe 4.3 burstul a fost scazut si dmg sustained a fost crescut.
Gj pentru post.
+1 pt reparat.
Totusi eu spun ca ai avut si un proc de la vreun item ceva .
Este un exploit oricum cu glyphuri care corespund dar nu stiu care sunt glyphurile. Asa sunt la orice clasa. -



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Post Posted: 19-08-2012, 19:02:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Snoopy, nu am avut nici un proc, in caz ca te referi la mine. De asta am si folosit arma 2h cu diferenta cat mai mica intre damage min si max, ca sa nu varieze prea mult.

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trilulilu wrote:
Ownatdebot2 wrote:
@ Mr. Faith... gg cu postu'. Asta ar explica hiturile templar care sunt mult mai mari decat alea de pe 4.3.

De aia ieri in arena am primit un mare templar de 46k de mi-a tiuit urechile de la mister warspy . GG de post !

Ti-am dat 46k cu 2 trinkete activate + 2 piese t11 upg ...


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Bine ca n-ai pus in topic si ca la relog/server crush dispare glyphu. -


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Post Posted: 06-09-2012, 22:44:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

BUMP.!
Templar's Verdict
(((AP/14) * Weaponspeed) + Weapon damage) * 235% ( with out glyph)



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Post Posted: 13-09-2012, 12:41:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ce e scris acolo sunt doar prostii si baliverne. Imi dai link in germana ? Imi dai link de 4.0.1 patch ? Pleaca ma de aici.



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Post Posted: 13-09-2012, 15:47:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu stii sa citesti mai departe de varful nasului se vede treaba, asa ca nu e problema mea. Topicul nu este pentru tine...daca vrei sa te simti bagat in seama du-te in alt topic.
E cazul sa iti arat ca din 4.0.1 n-a mai suferit nici o modificare? http://www.wowpedia.org/Templar%27s_Verdict, sau ca in topicul ala de pe battle.net zice:
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Note: Glyph of Templar's Verdict only provides ~11.5% increase, not 15% increase. This is because it is additive with Crusade (1.3 + 1.15 = 1.45) not multiplicative (1.3 * 1.15 = 1.495). It is still our 2nd best Glyph.


Ce dovezi ai tu ca ce am scris eu e incorect ? te pomenesti ca dupa wow-u de il stii tu damage-ul e normal, asa-i ?
A si nu ma intereseaza rating de arene sau alte porcarii, asta ca in caz ca vrei sa te lauzi cu ceva. Este un topic despre glyph-ul respectiv care nu functioneaza chiar corect; so stick to the point!


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Post Posted: 13-09-2012, 18:00:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Vrei sa duci dovezi clare si concludente ? Adu un print cu tooltip la templar de pe 4.0.6 cu acel glyph si vorbim dupa.



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Post Posted: 13-09-2012, 18:01:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

^
Adu tu dovezi ca nu e corect ce zice. El ti-a aratat de pe siteuri oficiale. Au fost bug reports care s-au reparat cu dovezi mult mai putine, asta e destul de bine conturat.




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