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Post Posted: 14-09-2012, 13:18:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=12846 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Every time you crit you are suppose to get 40% critical damage done over time. However the damage is nowhere near 40%.
Dovada / Proof: http://s11.postimage.org/kibexeqoz/ignite.jpg

To summarize the calculation:
0.40 x 20937 = 8374 (this is before the mastery is calculated in) * 1.34 (because i have stacked mastery) = 11301 is how much damage should have been dealt.
However, it doesn't do even close to this damage as seen in the screenshot: It dealt 6782 damage (with mastery calculated in) which means the base damage was 5025 (without mastery).

To calculate the percent of ignite damage: 5025 / 20937 = 24% which is not near 40% (it is about 60% weaker).

Steps to recreate:
1. Specc fire
2. Get Recount addon
3. Critically hit a target with a fireball
4. wait for ignite to do it's damage
5. Check reccount for the numbers.

Now you might say, big deal one DoT, bla bla, not important.... but the way that fire mages work (spreading ignite over enemies and using combustion to make combos) having ignite bugged up like this is a serious issue, i will show it in the following example:

wow.freakz.ro damage:
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Fire mage burst combo (cone of cold + sorch/fireblast + pyroblast + living bomb + combustion): - values are copied from recount on 0 resil target-
Living bomb DoT: 12952
Scorch damage: 10359
Fireblast damage: 9382
Ignite DoT sorch + frieblast: 6392
Pyroblast damage: 29638
Pyroblast DoT: 7957
Pyroblast Ignite: 8032
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Total isntant damage: 49379
Total DoT damage: 35333
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Combustion DPS: 12952/12 + 6392/4 + 7957/12 + 8032/4 = 1079 + 1598 + 663 + 2008 = 5348 DPS * 10 seconds = 53480 damage * 1.34 (mastery) = 72145
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Total damage output in the combo: 156857 damage.



How the damage should be:
Quote:
Fire mage burst combo (cone of cold + sorch/fireblast + pyroblast + living bomb + combustion): - values are calculated using verified formulas and dr.damage addon -
Living bomb DoT: 12952 -same
Scorch damage: 10359 -same
Fireblast damage: 9382 -same
Ignite DoT sorch + frieblast: 10581 (increase)
Pyroblast damage: 29638 -same
Pyroblast DoT: 7957 -same
Pyroblast Ignite: 15885 (increase)
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Total isntant damage: 49379
Total DoT damage: 47375
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Combustion DPS: 12952/12 + 10581/4 + 7957/12 + 15885/4 = 1079 + 2645 + 663 + 3971 = 8358 DPS * 10 seconds = 83580 damage * 1.34 (mastery) = 111977
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Total damage output in the combo: 238731 damage.


So, as you see, this small DoT bug actually costs us the difference between 238k damage and 156 k damage which is 34% DPS loss (and this is talking single target only....) imagine the damage/pressure loss if you spread this over 2-3 targets.
This is why I believe this should take a high priority (because it basically makes fire specc next to invalid as compared to others) not to mention that druid's DoT's tick more then those of a DoT specialized class....

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Post Posted: 15-09-2012, 12:47:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

confirm. am facut si eu teste si e exact cum a zis tipu




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Post Posted: 15-09-2012, 19:43:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu vreau sa`mi sara nimeni in cap ca vorbesc fara sa ma informez...dar un player mai documentat ca mine nu ar putea sa ne spuna daca ignite este influentat de mastery? (Am incercat sa caut pe google si nu am gasit vreo infrmatie... iar cu datele tehnice nu ma descurc asa bine , gen formule etc si caut si eu ajutor la altii -)
Daca cumva mastery ar trebui sa influenteze ingnite care este un dgm over time atunci este o problema foarte grava doarece am stackat 2k mastery si nu am observat nici o diferenta in ingnite damage, iar daca nu ar trebui sa influenteze scuzati toata vorbaria mea:(



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Post Posted: 15-09-2012, 21:31:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mastery influences all damage over time fire spells a fire mage has, ignite included. This post however is about Ignite base damage being too low, not related to mastery at all. Ignite's base damage is very very low and that is a huge issue for fire mages because ignite is suppose to be over 50% of our total damage and it is severely bugged making this spec not valid...
They should fix this ASAP or give it a mechanic override like they did with druid's because they didnt have weapon damage properly adjusted so they increased the formulas

In any case, Ignite is not working properly (not sure about how mastery does)

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Post Posted: 16-09-2012, 01:42:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

confirm.
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