[FIXED] [Hunter][PvE][PvP] Aimed Shot

[Mr.Faith]

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=19434&&name=aimed-shot
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Formula de calcul incorecta, damage mai mic decat ar trebui.
Dovada / Proof:
http://i46.tinypic.com/v8ke9.jpg -> 744 ap, damage arc 2-4, speed 2.3, average damage 2098
http://i47.tinypic.com/16nvbr.jpg -> 6914 ap, acelasi arc ca mai sus, average damage 8519

Ce zice tooltip-ul: A powerful aimed shot that deals 160% ranged weapon damage plus [776 + 72.4% of RAP].
Formula de calcul corecta: (100% weapon dmg + 72.4% RAP + 776) * 160% + 100 (sursa: EJ scroll la sf postului)
Shot-ul este normalizat, deci se va folosi 2.8 speed.

Alte info: in SimulationCraft acel 100 extra damage de la sfarsitul formulei este bagat in base damage-ul de 766 ca o variatie intre minim si maxim, adica base damage va deveni 776 minim 876 maxim plus an aditional 72.4% RAP. Probabil au vazut ca daca ai weapon cu damage mic damage-ul tot variaza mai mult decat diferenta dintre min-max weapon damage * multiplicatori.

Calcule cat ar fi trebuit sa dau:
Pt 744 AP: [(3 + 744 * 2.8 /14) + (776 + 744 * 0.724)] * 1.6 = 2364.32 (Nu am adaugat acel 100 damage, pt ca in simulator asta este min damage, iar maximum are 876 in loc de 776; vine undeva in jur de 2506 damage)
Pt 6914 AP: [(3 + 6914 * 2.8 /14) + (776 + 6914 * 0.724)] * 1.6 = 11465 (ca mai sus n-am adaugat 100 damage)


Alt proof cum ca se calculeaza asa damage-ul: http://www.wowhuntershall.com/2012/07/13/beta-class-analysis-part-xii/
Este de pe MoP beta, dar omul respectiv vrea sa stie daca s-au schimbat mecanicile odata cu terminatea Cataclysm-lui.

Voi decideti unde sa adaugati ramasita aia de 100 de la sfarsitul formulei.



EDIT:
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Ce scrie pe simcraft:

direct_power_mod:1.158400
base_dd_min:1241.98
base_dd_max:1386.55

Aparent ei au considerat acel ~100 damage ca o variatie a damage-lui gen cum este eviscerate spre exemplu care are un (minim + ap coef) * nr combo -> (maxim + ap coef) * nr de combo. Bine formula la eviscerate este ceva mai complicata aparent dar in principiu asa arata redusa.

Practic ar putea sa faca formula in felul urmator:
minim damage -> weapon damage + 115.84% RAP + 1241 cu coeficientul de RAP si bonus damage deja afectati de %weapon damage
maxim damage -> weapon damage + 115.84% RAP + 1386

Dar acel ~100 damage este o constanta si nu variaza in functie de gear sau altceva; asa ca personal as considera sa il repare si fara sa adauge damage-ul ala sau daca chiar vrea sa il repare cat mai exact posibil poate face o medie gen (1241 + 1386) / 2 = 1313.5 care impartit la 1.6 (weapon damage) = 820.

Asa ca ar putea considera formula finala ca (weapon dmg + 72.4% RAP + 820) * 1.6.

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by Mrfaith.

“No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother.”
Not for millions…not for glory…not for fame. For one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see.

[Incarnate]

I can't rly understand what u're talking about here but if it's about the Aimed shot dealing less dmg then Chimera then I'm with u.

[Mr.Faith]

In english: "Aimed Shot's damage is incorrect, damage is lower than expected"
The rest are some screenshots with damage, the correct formula and some calculations to prove that the damage you see in the screenshots is incorrect.

“No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother.”
Not for millions…not for glory…not for fame. For one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see.

[zebbi]

I apologize, if I pull out a controversy, but I put a question to the community, I appeal especially to hunters, can any of you have noticed that our strongest spell in absolute ie the Aimed Shot does damage?
say that depends from gear .... are full ruthless ... say that depends on the skill, the skill has nothing to do, say that they are the same things as children who complain because his character does no harm, not good so,

I would like to refer you to a topic you kindly ahnno closed to be DUPLICATE, where you can see my damage Aimed Shot on target without resistance without reduction without damage, nothing, standing still to act as a dummy, 8k of damage I could do, max crit 16k, then I will be asking me questions ... that I am bugged? there is something wrong with the calculation of the spell and harm reduction? ...

I get 30k from rouge, 40k blast of arcane mages, 30k from shamany elemental, from 25k warriors, 30k pally because ever since the hunter with his most powerful spell is 8k? 16, maximum encrypted? I repeat I am? or other hunter you have noticed this problem?

[zeFoXro]

+1 zebbi
Other than low dmg of shots its the annoying cast speed... WTF !!
Its doubled as in higher cast.
Instead of 1.4 its 3.1 sec.
Burst 35k and @ 3M u have 15k dps.

[Razzer]

Daca tu crezi ca aimed are 1.4 sec cast time nush ce sa zic de steady. Cast time este intradevar mai mare cu .5 sec dar nu cu cat ai zis tu.

[Voinic]

cu 0.5 ii mai mare cast timeu fata de spellbook si dupa ce ti se activeaza toate buffurile in raid de haste difetenta creste cu inca vreo 0.2 .

[GhiciCine]

+1 Azwraith a a mai facut un topic acum o luna in legatura cu haste care nu influenteaza Steady Shot si Aimed Shot.Tocmai acuma am observat ca inca este problema in tooltip la spells arata cum trebuie cat trebuie sa casteze dar de castat nu casteaza cum ar trebuii.Prin urmare nu sunt influentate acele 2 skilluri de haste din STATS! din talents/skills acele 2 spelluri sunt afectate.

Alte dovezi:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=26334&&s=6 - aimed shot without SS
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2irqm10&&s=6 - Aimed shot with SS
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2r20t3q&&s=6 - steady shot with SS
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vwco5v&&s=6 - steady shot without SS


http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/magtheridon/Ghicicine/simple
http://armory.freakz.ro/character-sheet.xml?r=Genesis&n=Gc

[Durotar]

aimed shot had a wrong foumula on wowhead
all correct and tested formulas for 4.3 are here -> http://elitistjerks.com/f74/t110306-hunter_faq_cataclysm_edition_read_before_asking_questions/

correct aimed shot formula
Aimed Shot - (100% weapon dmg + 72.4% RAP + 776) * 160% + 100

proof https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vmms6Rg0rYI:

[zebbi]

you have posted a video of 4.0.6, it is stated in the title as well ... anyway in the 4.0.6 Aimed gave 200% weapon damage plus etc etc, is now 160% weapon damage plus etc etc ... is been nerfed because too powerful. The problem here of x freakz some strange reason is TOO nerfed coming to do a lousy 10k ...

[Durotar]

zebbi wrote:

you have posted a video of 4.0.6, it is stated in the title as well ... anyway in the 4.0.6 Aimed gave 200% weapon damage plus etc etc, is now 160% weapon damage plus etc etc ... is been nerfed because too powerful. The problem here of x freakz some strange reason is TOO nerfed coming to do a lousy 10k ...

the youtube clip is called "WoW Cataclysm: Marksmanship Hunter Guide 4.0.6. (Post Aimed Shot Nerf)"
it is a nerfed damage already, before 4.0.6a hunters hit dummy for 50-60k
elitistjerks is 100% proof source

[dracosu5]

Deci , "Aimed Shot" chiar nu merge corect , asta fiind testata si de mine . Din cate am vazut DMG-ul este mai mic in critical cu 10-12K decat cel dat de "Chimera Shot" , iar in DMG normal cu 5,6-7K . Problema este ca , "Aimed Shot" nu "raspunde" la arma cum ar trebui , adica nu ii da acele 160% din weapon DMG .

[blajy]

I can agree that Aimed Shot, at 370 Ilvl on my MM Hunter, does on a 0 rezil and 0 armor Target Dummy -> 8k crit, last time I tested it...( I was to ashamed to test it again when I saw the result)

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[Shocker]

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