[REJECTED] [Mage][PVE][PVP] Critical Mass

[BlackWorth]

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=12873&&name=critical-mass
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: The +5% spell critical chance does NOT work
Dovada / Proof:

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/130328/WoWScrnShot_032813_033225_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/130328/WoWScrnShot_032813_033239_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/130328/WoWScrnShot_032813_033302_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

[Muteli]

try using a spell like LB or scorch with critical mass talent 3/3 print the damage and then use 0/3 critical mass and show us the difference between the crit procs(and damage in LB case) .

[odes]

In order to test this out properly im afraid you'll have to re-run some tests, cause in those screenshots you only scorched like 80 times which isnt enough to establish true crit value of a spell due to crazy rng.


Repeat the test on a regular dummy, first with the Critical Mass talent and then without it, and try with around 400-500 scorch casts, then you should see your true crit chance.

[BlackWorth]

80 scorch is way more than enough.

And why would i try without it? ofc it wouldnt work without it, i tried with it cause it is bugged... I posted everything needed to proove that its bugged

In math doing 600 scorch vs 80 scorch is stupid cause the % would stay the same.

Posturi unite automat, 28-03-2013, 14:54:12

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This took me ~35 minutes so I hope youre satisfied

with talent:

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/130328/WoWScrnShot_032813_135056_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

without it

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/130328/WoWScrnShot_032813_140439_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

And dont tell me 300 isnt enough cause it f..ing is

[odes]

Seems like a legit bug, good find and btw, im not satisfied that you wasted 30 mins...the only reason i told you to do it was so that they couldnt reject your bug report due to inconclusive proof :\

Edit: I think your problem is low hit rating, pretty sure your 5% missing crit is in those misses. You have to test again with hit cap

[soulkreep]

Hit chance should not influence the result unless the chance to hit lower than the chance to crit .That's how it should normaly work but then again this is a private server so yeah you should retest just to be shure .

[BlackWorth]

Hit rating has nothing to do with it, as i miss crits and noncrits its the % of crits with hits that matters. Also i cant do non-misses dummies are bugged youknow..

[odes]

Another horrible bug related to critical mass occurs when 2 or more fire mages apply the effect on the target. For example, theres 2 fire mages, you apply your mass on the target at pull and then 1-2 seconds later the other mages applies it, you basically LOSE the 5% crit, this is definitely NOT the way they should work and i think alot of other classes are having issues very similar to our critical mass.

This seems like it was modified (i think these debuffs used to be bugged and stacked? who knows) and this might be their solution but it is definitely NOT the answer. A fire mage in raids fighting for 5% crit is just horrible especially when you rely so much on crit.

TL;DR: Basically, if another mage applies critical mass over yours, you lose the 5% crit and only that mage benefits from it. Thats why in raids you will see 1 mage has higher crit chance than the other and etc. This needs to be fixed asap.

[BlackWorth]

Didn't see that either

[Nemoboyz]

odes wrote:

TL;DR: Basically, if another mage applies critical mass over yours, you lose the 5% crit and only that mage benefits from it. Thats why in raids you will see 1 mage has higher crit chance than the other and etc. This needs to be fixed asap.

i confirm this. with another mage in party/raid ,i can barely have some Piroblast! procs. and i think Critical Mass is the same thing with Shadow and Flame

[trilulilu]

+1 Bug major !! E destul de clar ceea ce s-a explicat aici si ar trebui trecut la confirmed :d


You know the legend . You dont know the story

[TheDeathBoy]

+1 Bug foarte grav la magul fire, n-am crezut prima data dar am testat si eu cu 500 scorch-uri pe Heroic Dummy si la crit chance apare o val. extraordinar de apropiata de critul meu, nicidecum cu +5% crit. Sper sa se repare cat mai rapid.

[Wtp]

odes wrote:

Another horrible bug related to critical mass occurs when 2 or more fire mages apply the effect on the target. For example, theres 2 fire mages, you apply your mass on the target at pull and then 1-2 seconds later the other mages applies it, you basically LOSE the 5% crit, this is definitely NOT the way they should work and i think alot of other classes are having issues very similar to our critical mass. This seems like it was modified (i think these debuffs used to be bugged and stacked? who knows) and this might be their solution but it is definitely NOT the answer. A fire mage in raids fighting for 5% crit is just horrible especially when you rely so much on crit. TL;DR: Basically, if another mage applies critical mass over yours, you lose the 5% crit and only that mage benefits from it. Thats why in raids you will see 1 mage has higher crit chance than the other and etc. This needs to be fixed asap.

+1 this bug should be repaired as soon as possible, it is very annoying and it is influencing a lot the magi's dps if there are 2 or more fire magi in the raid

[Acty]

odes wrote:

Another horrible bug related to critical mass occurs when 2 or more fire mages apply the effect on the target. For example, theres 2 fire mages, you apply your mass on the target at pull and then 1-2 seconds later the other mages applies it, you basically LOSE the 5% crit, this is definitely NOT the way they should work and i think alot of other classes are having issues very similar to our critical mass.

Confirm!

[Lierre]

to be on-topic, first of all pls get hit capped, even if you say that you wanted to test this bug on a 85 lvl dummy where you need (most of the cases) 4% hit like in pvp, that 0.04% can be very annoying... believe me, i had 16.96% in pve and i said that "what could happen?", well i missed with combustion, it sucks... get at least 4% or 17% and then go and test the bug... 200 casts is more than enough with hit cap...
for an off-topic, i noticed as well that if there are 2 or more mages in a raid they can apply their critical mass effect and you lose yours...

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