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Post Posted: 30-03-2013, 23:27:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=689 (wowhead link)

Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Ok, am observat un bug destul de major in Drain life si anume : Drain Life este un channel spell si dmgul/tickul de heal trebuie sa-l primesti dupa o secunda daca e sa ma iau dupa ceea ce scrie pe wowhead. Ei pe freakz iei acel tick de heal instant, cum ai apasat pe spell ai si luat tickul de heal ceea ce este cam overpower. Am testat pe alte 2 servere cataclysm si pe respectivele parea sa mearga bine si anume luai acel tick de heal dupa aproximativ o secunda. Presupun ca hasteul reduce acest timp insa cu 0 haste primul tick de heal este iarasi instant.

Acum, nu sunt sigur ca este un bug, am cautat sa ma documentez pe internet insa nu am gasit foarte multe informatii. Dar dupa logica mea, fiind un channeled spell nu ar trebui sa se comporte asa si anume primul tick sa-l dea instant. A si inca un lucru, am facut un test si cu Mind flayul de la priest si acolo pare sa mearga ok.

Mentionez ca mainul este warlock, pentru potentialii hateri care vor aparea.

Dovada / Proof: Nu am cum sa o dovedesc, mi-ar trebui o filmare si pcul nu-mi permite acest lucru insa se poate dovedi foarte usor ingame, sunt dispus sa fac cateva teste daca este nevoie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&&v=tgwPSN-HQKI

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Post Posted: 30-03-2013, 23:40:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Pe simulation craft nu pot gasi Drain Life deoarece nu este folosit in PvE dar daca stie altcineva unde sa gaseasca o chestie de genu tick zero daca are true inseamna ca tre sa dea primu tick imd ce e pus dot-ul/inceput channelul.


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Post Posted: 30-03-2013, 23:44:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am cautat pe wowwiki si pe forums, insa nu am gasit vreun argument cu care sa te contrazic.Doar tests ingame ar fi, insa in seara asta nu prea mai pot:D.
Cum e si la qurtz,addon ptr cast, la channeled spells se vad niste linii mici unde cand spelu atinge prima linie intr-adevar face ce ar trebui sa faca.
Vad maine.Nu e confirmat de mine.



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Post Posted: 30-03-2013, 23:46:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Este bug inca de pe 4.0.6 . Asa a fost si atunci, o sa ma interesez si eu in seara asta, poate gasesc ceva proofs/videos.



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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 12:27:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Informatiile pe internet sunt foarte putine spre deloc. Am incercat sa ma uit la diferite clipuri pe youtube insa nu ma pot exprima dat fiind ca nu este un clip facut fix in directia asta. Poate cineva care a jucat pe blizzard poate confirma sau infirma treaba asta sau cineva care joaca acum pe blizzard poate face un test cu Drain Life, ma indoiesc ca mecanica spellului s-a schimbat in mop.
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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 12:54:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Chow wrote:
Informatiile pe internet sunt foarte putine spre deloc..


Aici ai mare dreptate, insa videos poti gasi pe youtube foarte simplu, insa nu sti sigur daca wlocku acela joaca pe blizz .
Cum am spus mai sus , quartz cred ca arata cel mai corect moment in care drain life(sau orice alt chanelled spell) face ce scrie in tooltip.
casuta:Raster (desi nu cred ca e un important bug , iti da max 4k heal si 4k dmg pe target) .



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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 13:00:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

nseries wrote:
(desi nu cred ca e un important bug , iti da max 4k heal si 4k dmg pe target) .


E foarte important. Cand esti low HP iti da mult mai mult heal + ca il poti folosii fara sa iei kick, lasi cate 1 tick opresti , lasi 1 tick opresti.




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Nerd wrote:
nseries wrote:
(desi nu cred ca e un important bug , iti da max 4k heal si 4k dmg pe target) .


E foarte important. Cand esti low HP iti da mult mai mult heal + ca il poti folosii fara sa iei kick, lasi cate 1 tick opresti , lasi 1 tick opresti.

Fine,am gresit, insa nu cred ca in arena cand iti moare healu tu stai pe loc sa dai drain life si sa iei -nush-8 k? , in loc de soul harvest care da si 20k, sau healthstone dupa ce fugi.Ma rog fiecare cu tactica lui de joc.
Intr-adevar si eu dau drain life insa cand mai am ~20%hp nu stau sa il spamez ( vorbim numai de arena).



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Post Posted: 31-03-2013, 13:15:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Cum spunea si Nerd, este un bug foarte important. Sub 25% eu de exemplu iau ~ 11k pe tick. Facand acel spam fara a lua kick sau orice alt cs, pot face foarte usor ~ 40k hp. Nu are rost sa vorbim despre ce facem cand ne pica healerul, ,e irelevant. Desi joc warlock si fac arene cu un alt dps (lucru foarte rar intalnit pe specul affliction) nu imi place sa ma folosesc de bugs. Sunt convins ca daca se va fixa, acest lucru va conta foarte mult cel putin in comboul pe care il am eu, insa nu imi pasa asa mult, nu ma incalzelste deloc daca fac un anumit rating "carat" de anumite buguri.
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Post Posted: 02-04-2013, 18:45:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu gasiti si voi un video ? Nu-mi vine in cap nici un warlock.


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Post Posted: 02-04-2013, 19:46:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@ Raster

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tgwPSN-HQKI:



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Nerd wrote:
@ Raster

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tgwPSN-HQKI:



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Post Posted: 04-04-2013, 11:59:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ciudat. am facut un test pe warlockul meu, fara gear si drain life dadea 4 ticks incluzand primul tick,desi in recount apareau 3 hits. normal,fara gear drain life da 3 tickuri desi cu primul da 4.


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Post Posted: 05-04-2013, 05:03:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ce vroia chow sa subilinieze e ca iti da undeva la 8-9-10k heal instant fara sa stea 0.84 sec in channeling:) healul depinzand de hp-ul lock-ului
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Post Posted: 09-04-2013, 00:27:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu stiu ce i-au mai facut la warlock dar a devenit ca un DK blood, pe langa healu imens are si rezistenta cam exagerata.. cu un rogue full cataclysmic dau 6-7k crit back stab si 8-9 cu ambush vs same gear... cu ambele trinkete up (~30k ap) abia trec de 11-12k ambush... vi se pare normal?


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