Warlocks Demonology

Shortz · Posted: 22-04-2013, 21:48:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hi.Its been bugging me from some time now.My big question is "Why does Demonology do such bad dps ?" compared to Destruction and even Affliction. I have read in many places that on 4.3 Demon should be the best in PvE. That is obviously not the case here. I fail to find the reason though. Even after haste fix demonology is still pretty low. Mind someone sharing his experience with this issue.
(p.s. I read in some post that Game masters used BiS items and tested DPS on classes.So if its no problem mind one GM sharing that info about Affliction,Demonology and Destruction.)
Thank you.

Needlegun · Posted: 22-04-2013, 22:44:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Warlock-PvE-PvP-Master-Demonologist-Demonic-Knowledge-t201929.html thats why. mastery scaling is very very wrong ,guardian pets (doomguard,infernal) do not benefit from demonology mastery at all.However with recent fix of t13 2p bonus i pulled 30k dps on alizabal as demo with like 45 k at peak

Berna · Posted: 22-04-2013, 23:26:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

still on aoe times they are very good.

ghosy · Posted: 23-04-2013, 03:43:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

yeah try to see your dps peaks on yor sajh 25n 25hc, i got from last place on damage done (below even tank) to second in almost 3 seconds on first black ooze, demonology is not about constant dps, it's like a "use when needed" dps since the aoe dps + infernal guardian is extreme. and of course, is good to time the procs and burst with the demon form. however, the single target dps is still low xD i think fixing the haste and the mastery will be a hyp boost, the same thing happens with beastmaster hunter, my pet with 900 mastery crits 40k and with 1700 crits 41k -.-!!! - SAME WITH WARLOCK PETS XD

Shortz · Posted: 23-04-2013, 07:11:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Needlegun wrote:

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Warlock-PvE-PvP-Master-Demonologist-Demonic-Knowledge-t201929.html thats why. mastery scaling is very very wrong ,guardian pets (doomguard,infernal) do not benefit from demonology mastery at all.However with recent fix of t13 2p bonus i pulled 30k dps on alizabal as demo with like 45 k at peak

I dont think its only the Doomguard and Infernal.These 2 pets are like most CD, Demonology doesnt depend on them for its constant dps.
I understand that Demonology has become really sensitive about timing Metamorp with Trinkets or Demonsoul or other CD.
And i doubt the demons are the only ones to blame for such DPS difference between Demo and Destro.

Also i know Demonology shines in AoE but it shouldnt lack on single target like that.

harshal777 · Posted: 06-05-2013, 17:55:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

lock dps is low for some damned reason... or the class is too hard to play, maybe l2p
my dk gets 40k dps spamming 3 buttons

oMSQo · Posted: 06-05-2013, 21:13:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

i get around 38k dps with my warlock on destruction check out my chars

Wintz · Posted: 07-05-2013, 07:41:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

locks are really underrated...idk if its to the server bugs atm or to being bad at them but I know in pve I kinda want to improve on my lock. Nothing special on him just some 406/et items doing 19-20k dps as destro on both bosses in DS. Can anyone give a helpfull pve guide link

Shortz · Posted: 07-05-2013, 09:57:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

i have no problem geting to 30k dps on Destruction
My point is that on retail Demonology is best for Aoe and Single target. And here its just ignored.

fidow · Posted: 07-05-2013, 14:21:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t111390-destruction_cataclysm_4_3_release/ <---- Destruction guide

http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t110366-demonology_cataclysm_4_3_release/ <---- Demonology guide

They are two really helpful guide for who doesn't know how a lock should works. In destruction in this server i could done at the end of the fight 37k dps against Argaloth with all of the raids buffes i need but in demonology that should be more powerful than destruction, also in single target, i couldn't do more but 30-32k, even changing the felguard after used the demon soul with the felhunter to gain more damage...

Something is obviously wrong with demonology...

Berna · Posted: 07-05-2013, 16:05:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

indeed something is wrong with demo locks on freakz. but also there are some false statements about theorycrafting on the web about it. Demo locks are supposed to maximize their dps standing most of the time in front of the boss/es, thing thats rarely happening. Demon Soul is rarely lined up with Meta, so you can't really burst properly as you wish. Atm from what i saw destro here is just so much better. Ofc with the proper rotation, trinkets and a smart use of CDs demo locks can still pull decent numbers on aoe fights.

Shortz · Posted: 07-05-2013, 17:24:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

elitejerks guides are really well made.
There is a know bug for Demon on Freakz (Mastery) but i doubt that is the only thing wrong with the spec.

harshal777 · Posted: 01-06-2013, 14:07:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Bump!
plz fix demonology lock

pyrox · Posted: 24-06-2013, 18:35:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yep what happend with demo lock ?

capmoq · Posted: 25-06-2013, 17:39:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Destruction Warlocks are in a really bad state as well. Full mastery destruction Warlocks with demonology spec reforges makes same or even more dps than full haste warlock. Haste specced warlocks can cast more incinerates / conflagrates and have more immolate / corruption ticks and you could still do less dps than mastery Warlock. That's a pretty bad sign tbh.