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Post Posted: 08-08-2013, 15:53:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77226 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Daca depasesti 20 mastery nu mai da increase pe direct heal .Ar trebui sa dea increase la direct heal chiar daca ai full HP.Se poate observa in printuri ca la 20.67 mastey, https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77472 (wowhead link) a dat 33875,iar la 37.40 mastery: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77472 (wowhead link) a dat 33835,ambele hituri fiind noncrit.
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Mastery 16.11 : http://i.imgur.com/tOLrp2f.jpg
Mastery 20.67 : http://i.imgur.com/NgHEHQy.jpg
Mastey 37.40 : http://i.imgur.com/7rYYpoW.jpg



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Post Posted: 08-08-2013, 16:10:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Adevarat , dupa 20 mastery nu iti mai creste direct healing.


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Post Posted: 08-08-2013, 18:54:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Katherine wrote:
Ar trebui sa dea increase la direct heal chiar daca ai full HP.



Scuze dar nu asa merge mastery .Daca targetul tau are 1 HP primesti tot increasul dat de mastery // daca targetul este la 70% HP at tu o sa primesti doar 30% din increasul dat de mastery // daca targetul este full HP tu primesti fix ...nimic din mastery .

De asemenea e de mentionat ca greater healing wave nu da heal fix ci variaza intre anumite valori .Daca sustii ca mastery nu mai da increase peste 20 d pct te sfatuiesc sa iei un lock care sa-si dea life tap si sa testezi mai multe healuri pe el .


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soulkreep wrote:
Katherine wrote:
Ar trebui sa dea increase la direct heal chiar daca ai full HP.



Scuze dar nu asa merge mastery .Daca targetul tau are 1 HP primesti tot increasul dat de mastery // daca targetul este la 70% HP at tu o sa primesti doar 30% din increasul dat de mastery // daca targetul este full HP tu primesti fix ...nimic din mastery .

De asemenea e de mentionat ca greater healing wave nu da heal fix ci variaza intre anumite valori .Daca sustii ca mastery nu mai da increase peste 20 d pct te sfatuiesc sa iei un lock care sa-si dea life tap si sa testezi mai multe healuri pe el .


Vrei sa zici ca la full HP mastery nu da increase deloc? E posibil sa ma fi inselat.o sa mai verific si la low HP sa vad care e diferenta.



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Post Posted: 10-08-2013, 18:26:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Voi shamanii lu' Punnisher sunteti pamant de flori,ca asa va invata el(atat il duce).Nu aveti o treaba cu shamanu.Mai vine si Kennenlol sa confirme - .Per ansamblu mastery la shaman da increase la heal cu cat hp'ul targetului e mai scazut,daca targetul are HP full, mastery nu intervine deloc.Avand in vedere ca asa functioneaza mastery'ul la shaman inca de cand s-a introdus Cataclysm-ul ,iar pe Freakz suntem deja la al 2-lea si ultimul patch de Cata,ma duce la concluzia ca voi jucati shaman de ieri si ca Punnisher ala e degeaba shaman de atat timp.
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Prietene eu nu te-am injurat pe tine,nu cred ca ne permitem sau ne tragen de sireturi.
Daca ai o problema cu punisher e problema ta cu el.



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Post Posted: 10-08-2013, 22:38:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Citim si noi tooltipul ala ?

No bug



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Post Posted: 10-08-2013, 22:53:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Keem wrote:
Voi shamanii lu' Punnisher sunteti pamant de flori,ca asa va invata el(atat il duce).Nu aveti o treaba cu shamanu.Mai vine si Kennenlol sa confirme - .Per ansamblu mastery la shaman da increase la heal cu cat hp'ul targetului e mai scazut,daca targetul are HP full, mastery nu intervine deloc.Avand in vedere ca asa functioneaza mastery'ul la shaman inca de cand s-a introdus Cataclysm-ul ,iar pe Freakz suntem deja la al 2-lea si ultimul patch de Cata,ma duce la concluzia ca voi jucati shaman de ieri si ca Punnisher ala e degeaba shaman de atat timp.


un moderator va rog frumos sa-i da-ti warn pt off topic + instigare la flame si insulte aduse aspura jucatorilor, multumesc

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Keem wrote:
Voi shamanii lu' Punnisher sunteti pamant de flori,ca asa va invata el(atat il duce).Nu aveti o treaba cu shamanu.Mai vine si Kennenlol sa confirme - .Per ansamblu mastery la shaman da increase la heal cu cat hp'ul targetului e mai scazut,daca targetul are HP full, mastery nu intervine deloc.Avand in vedere ca asa functioneaza mastery'ul la shaman inca de cand s-a introdus Cataclysm-ul ,iar pe Freakz suntem deja la al 2-lea si ultimul patch de Cata,ma duce la concluzia ca voi jucati shaman de ieri si ca Punnisher ala e degeaba shaman de atat timp.


un moderator va rog sa-i da-ti ban pt off topic + insirgare la flame + inslulte aduse asupra jucatorilor, multumesc



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un moderator va rog sa-i da-ti ban pt off topic + insirgare la flame + inslulte aduse asupra jucatorilor, multumesc



Du-te sa plangi in taina,esti iremediabil!

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Post Posted: 11-08-2013, 12:08:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hai lasati off-topicul.

Soulkreep a explicat cum functioneaza mastery si e clar ca baietii nu au inteles, nu este nici un bug aici, close topic please.

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Post Posted: 11-08-2013, 13:18:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Deci,Ca sa intelegeti odata...Mastery-ul afecteaza healul doar in cazul in care Targetul nu e 100%,altfel nu are nici o influenta,asa ca nu mai aberati va rog


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Post Posted: 27-08-2013, 14:54:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Fiecare citeste ce vrea si spune ce crede. In bug report a spus ca daca depasesti 20 mastery se pune numai 20 mastery.=> acesta e bug reportu!.

PLS fara offtopic.

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Post Posted: 27-08-2013, 15:15:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Este oarecum ciudat ce vad eu acolo in printuri.

1. Da , daca de la 20 in sus nu mai creste cu nimic este cu adevarat un bug , dar nu are ce sa iti creasca si nu ai ce vede cand esti full HP
2. Interesant faptul cum se vede diferenta aia de 8k heal sau cat este intre primul si al 2-lea print , mastery parca ar fi spell power sau healing power ceea ce nu e normal, si 1% mastery daca ai fi avut in primul print ar fi trebuit sa dai acelasi amount de heal ca si in al 2-lea print sau al 3-lea deci prin urmare alt bug, printul pare a fi de cand era up test realmul , sunt curios daca inca mai merge asa.

Normal Mastery functioneaza de la 99.999(9)% HP in jos (spre 1%HP) vezi https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77226

Luand varianta statica de inceput adica fara stack de mastery :
"Increases the potency of your healing spells by up to 24%, based on the current health level of your target."

Ar fi ceva de genul <Target Ion Vasile curest HP = 150 din 200 >
Deci efectivitatea masteryului nostru pe Ion Vasile ar fi de 24% din diferenta (adica din 50hp)
Iar la full HP ar fi 0 , pentru ca nu poti imparti ceva la 0

Concluzie :

Nu stiu daca are cap, dar un lucru e cert ar fi trebuit sa mearga si la 37% sau cat spunea colegul, dar nu pe full HP target.
Iar la full HP target nu trebuie sa existe vreo diferenta intre amountul de heal chiar daca ai 1 mastery sau 30 mastery, numa daca nu cumva ai scos din spell power / healing. ( Amountul de heal la full Hp il modifica doar intelectul, buffele de aceeasi clasa, spell powerul/ healul , dar nu mastery )

PS: Pirin si prin printurile astea dau de tine ma , undercover peste tot -)



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Post Posted: 28-08-2013, 12:23:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Just tested it and it works, you get increased healing even after 20 mastery



Fixes will be live only after a server restart !

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