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Post Posted: 03-12-2013, 15:56:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Just tested it out on a feral druid. Had 20 expertise on my frost DK and he dodged 7 out of 10 Obliterates and 6 out of 10 frost strikes.

So, do you guys plan fixing it? Expertise didn't work in 4.0.6 and it doesn't work now. It's nearly impossible hitting a dodge/parry based class because they'll dodge the crap out of you.

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Post Posted: 03-12-2013, 16:50:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Please hover over Expertise in your Character Panel and read outloud what it says: 601 expertise rating (or 20 expertise) reduces chance to be dodged/parried by 5%. 5 *** percent. Ferals have 25+ percent chance to dodge (depending on gear). Just because you have 20 expertise doesn't mean you won't get dodged or parried, if they have more than 5% dodge or parry you will get dodged and/or parried.
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Post Posted: 03-12-2013, 17:06:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I love when players reply like that. =]

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Post Posted: 03-12-2013, 18:25:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Flatlined wrote:
Please hover over Expertise in your Character Panel and read outloud what it says: 601 expertise rating (or 20 expertise) reduces chance to be dodged/parried by 5%. 5 *** percent. Ferals have 25+ percent chance to dodge (depending on gear). Just because you have 20 expertise doesn't mean you won't get dodged or parried, if they have more than 5% dodge or parry you will get dodged and/or parried.



Oh, i didn't know that 7 out of 10 is 25%. Thank you for correcting me, Mr. Dodger.

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Post Posted: 03-12-2013, 20:47:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Flatlined wrote:
Please hover over Expertise in your Character Panel and read outloud what it says: 601 expertise rating (or 20 expertise) reduces chance to be dodged/parried by 5%. 5 *** percent. Ferals have 25+ percent chance to dodge (depending on gear). Just because you have 20 expertise doesn't mean you won't get dodged or parried, if they have more than 5% dodge or parry you will get dodged and/or parried.

That doesnt change the fact expertise doesnt work.

@Zohl, nice treatment for your players! what a jerk!

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Post Posted: 03-12-2013, 20:48:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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@Zohl, nice treatment for your players! what a jerk!



......... what?

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Post Posted: 03-12-2013, 21:36:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Anesthetic wrote:
Flatlined wrote:
Please hover over Expertise in your Character Panel and read outloud what it says: 601 expertise rating (or 20 expertise) reduces chance to be dodged/parried by 5%. 5 *** percent. Ferals have 25+ percent chance to dodge (depending on gear). Just because you have 20 expertise doesn't mean you won't get dodged or parried, if they have more than 5% dodge or parry you will get dodged and/or parried.



Oh, i didn't know that 7 out of 10 is 25%. Thank you for correcting me, Mr. Dodger.


You do realize you're exaggerating right? You came in here with no proof what so ever and just threw a number like "oh this feral dodged 7 out of 10 of my abilities hurr durr" and I'm supposed to believe you if you would have given me a screenshot where the guy literally dodged 7 spells in a row I would have replied differently.

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That doesnt change the fact expertise doesnt work.


Wat?

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Post Posted: 04-12-2013, 12:45:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Anesthetic wrote:
Just tested it out on a feral druid. Had 20 expertise on my frost DK and he dodged 7 out of 10 Obliterates and 6 out of 10 frost strikes.

So, do you guys plan fixing it? Expertise didn't work in 4.0.6 and it doesn't work now. It's nearly impossible hitting a dodge/parry based class because they'll dodge the crap out of you.


Good luck trying to hit Rogues, with 35-90% dodge (with Evasion).



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Post Posted: 06-12-2013, 09:02:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Man i play with 6 expertise, and i rly dont see the difference between 6 and 16 : DD, freakz e baza : >
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Post Posted: 06-12-2013, 14:14:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Man i play with 6 expertise, and i rly dont see the difference between 6 and 16 : DD, freakz e baza : >


Because there's none. No matter if you have 0 expertise or you're capped, you will get dodged/parried most of the time.


Also, for our smartasses here, if i have 5.02% hit in PvP and hovering my mouse over Hit stats it says "You have 0% chance to miss the target" how come i'm still able to MISS targets in PvP? It happens every 20-30 melee swing. Does that work as intended too?

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Post Posted: 06-12-2013, 14:25:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Anesthetic wrote:
Allan wrote:
Man i play with 6 expertise, and i rly dont see the difference between 6 and 16 : DD, freakz e baza : >


Because there's none. No matter if you have 0 expertise or you're capped, you will get dodged/parried most of the time.


Also, for our smartasses here, if i have 5.02% hit in PvP and hovering my mouse over Hit stats it says "You have 0% chance to miss the target" how come i'm still able to MISS targets in PvP? It happens every 20-30 melee swing. Does that work as intended too?


5% cap for PvP is only for special attacks, not white melee swings.

Anyway, I have 18 expertise on my Enha shaman, and 0.5% to get both dodged and parried, but again, it happens way more often than it's supposed to be.



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Post Posted: 06-12-2013, 15:13:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Macedo931 wrote:
Anesthetic wrote:
Allan wrote:
Man i play with 6 expertise, and i rly dont see the difference between 6 and 16 : DD, freakz e baza : >


Because there's none. No matter if you have 0 expertise or you're capped, you will get dodged/parried most of the time.


Also, for our smartasses here, if i have 5.02% hit in PvP and hovering my mouse over Hit stats it says "You have 0% chance to miss the target" how come i'm still able to MISS targets in PvP? It happens every 20-30 melee swing. Does that work as intended too?


5% cap for PvP is only for special attacks, not white melee swings.

Anyway, I have 18 expertise on my Enha shaman, and 0.5% to get both dodged and parried, but again, it happens way more often than it's supposed to be.



You're half right, 5% hit is for special attacks yes, and with 18 expertise you have 0.5% chance to get dodged and parried by...MOBS not players. Most casters have 5% dodge and parry (so your expertise should negate their chances), Strength based melees have 5% dodge and ~11% parry (you'll get parried), Agility based classes have ~25%+ dodge and 5% parry (you'll get dodged).

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Post Posted: 04-06-2014, 08:29:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

stack 20 expertize
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Post Posted: 04-06-2014, 08:54:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Anesthetic wrote:
Expertise didn't work in 4.0.6 and it doesn't work now.
Roflmao!
"Expertise" was fine in 3.3.5a, 4.0.6 and for your info Expertise work in 4.3.4.
Every newbie who come, have some nonreason.
PS: You won million $ 'cuz you are the only one with that problem on server of 2k players.
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