Gearing-up Issue & Raid Finder

[Zohlomg]

The bag will drop two items from now.

The bag will no longer be replaced if it dropped a duplicate item.

The change will be live as of tomorrow.

[Snowblood]

Zohlomg wrote:

The bag will drop two items from now. The bag will no longer be replaced if it dropped a duplicate item. The change will be live as of tomorrow.

What is the point in doing the weekly quests again & again when the same items drop from the bag which u already received before? I m very much happy with the implementation of 2 items from the bag..but both the items that dropped for me are d same(duplicates) which i already received in the last 2 bags (Necrotic Boneplate Chestguard & Necrotic Boneplate Shoulderguards). Whats the point in keeping the 2 drops when both of them dropped are duplicates which u already have. Its not helping either to increase ilvl. Its just frustrating to be honest. You do 15's 20's sometime depending on grp of rdf for nothing? items what u already have? duplicates should be replaced or it will to be honest will frustrate many players who do all the rdf's & get nothing (duplicates i mean). I m one of those frustrated person's & i wanted to clearly tell what others might also feel later on.! No Rage! I want the server to be as the best so i kept infront what problem I or others may face later on. Duplicates need to be replaced.

[Zohlomg]

Duplicate items drop in raids too.

The amount of tickets effectively tripled and the amount of work for a GM was too high, because he had to stay with the player until a new item drops, because some people had ~5 RF items and the chance of getting a new duplicate was insane.

But, the main point is

Duplicate items drop in raids too.

[Snowblood]

Zohlomg wrote:

Duplicate items drop in raids too. The amount of tickets effectively tripled and the amount of work for a GM was too high, because he had to stay with the player until a new item drops, because some people had ~5 RF items and the chance of getting a new duplicate was insane. But, the main point is Duplicate items drop in raids too.

The 384ilvl set items all do not drop since most bosses aren't open yet..if its creating a problem for GM's you should change the scripts to that if items have been already received earlier they should not b accessible or droppable anymore. To be honest doing all for nothing is a pure waste of time. Today i faced it..later on others will and again this topic will go on. If raid instances like FL bosses were open if we could do them ourself i wound't have cribbed or taken any opposition for the kind of drops. But FL idk is long way cauz of spine being focussed on so plz a solution is required on this issue..

[che]

idk if someone wrote it already, but here's a suggestion (not my idea, read it ingame) - why don't you make some sort of tokens and vendors with rf gear? for instance, the weekly gives you 2 tokens (instead of 2 items) which you can use to buy offset items for one token each or a weapon/t13 set item for 2 tokens each
I think that would please most of the people + gms wouldn't have to respond to duplicate tickets + noone would cry about getting duplicates in forums anymore

cheers

[Snowblood]

che wrote:

idk if someone wrote it already, but here's a suggestion (not my idea, read it ingame) - why don't you make some sort of tokens and vendors with rf gear? for instance, the weekly gives you 2 tokens (instead of 2 items) which you can use to buy offset items for one token each or a weapon/t13 set item for 2 tokens each I think that would please most of the people + gms wouldn't have to respond to duplicate tickets + noone would cry about getting duplicates in forums anymore cheers

Quite like the idea!

[Zohlomg]

^Quite impossible to make without looking incredibly bad.

The amount of work would be futile, normally you should do this quest only once, maximum twice in order to bypass the gap between CAN_GO_DS and LOL_NOOB_NO_GEAR

[Barnie]

che wrote:

idk if someone wrote it already, but here's a suggestion (not my idea, read it ingame) - why don't you make some sort of tokens and vendors with rf gear? for instance, the weekly gives you 2 tokens (instead of 2 items) which you can use to buy offset items for one token each or a weapon/t13 set item for 2 tokens each I think that would please most of the people + gms wouldn't have to respond to duplicate tickets + noone would cry about getting duplicates in forums anymore cheers

Please... stop with the laziness, how much more do you need till your greediness gap is filled ? What happened to the old days where you just wanted to kill the boss for the sake of working together with your mates to complete the challenges of the mechanics despite the fact that it may drop paladin loot and you were horde. Instead of leeching for more be happy with the things you got, cause in the end it's just a game meant to be played with friends and have fun.
It's not a race.


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[che]

I merely offered a solution, I don't play for loot, nor have I ever played for it. if you don't like the idea of these rdf gearing quests, you can avoid them instead of accusing others of greediness.

[MindBreaker]

Ar fi o idee daca ati schimba creditul la quest astfel:
10x dungeons normale
5x dungeons heroice
De ce? Deoarece heroicele acuma nu prea mai sunt populate. Am patit azi sa intre lumea in heroica, realiza ca e hc si iesea. Dar daca faceti treaba asta sa impartiti si dungeons astfel incat atunci cand faci cele 5 heroice, daca ai low gear sa dai join pentru random cataclysm heroic(unde sa fie doar cele de 4.0.6), daca esti mai geared sa dai random hour of twilight heroic(unde sa fie doar cele de 4.3).
Din 10 dungeons normale plus iteme din AH/World Drop/DS-FL Trash ar trebui sa ai gearul necesar sa faci 4.0.6 heroics.

Deasemenea daca aveti timpul necesar puteti face un chain quest din acestea care sa fie ceva de genul:
Primul sa fie cu 5-10 rdf-uri normale unde iti pica bag cu iteme din fl n/hc sau bagul care il avem deja cu rf items din ds.
Al 2-lea sa fie 5 normale 5 heroice unde iti pica bag cu rf items din ds.
Al 3-lea care sa fie si repeatable 8-10 heroice random unde iti pica bag cu rf items inclusiv spine si madness items.
Asa cred ca o sa creasca numarul celor care fac dungeons atat normal cat si heroic. Playeri cu gear de ds 10/25 normal o sa faca si ei cand aud de spine/madness items chiar daca sunt raid finder ei ne fiind bis o sa le fie folositoare. In felul asta o sa aiba si cine sa boosteze playeri care abea fac gear.
Ideea cu acest quest pe langa gearingul playerilor low ar trebui sa fie si sa ii atraga pe cei care fac ds normal sa isi ocupe timpul cu ceva cat au cd pe ds si 15 dungeons pentru 2 iteme tip rf nu ii atrage pe playeri mid-end sau high-end.


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[sinine]

I want to ask about http://www.wowhead.com/item=69903/satchel-of-exotic-mysteries which you added for tanks and healers. It's extremely frustrating when i'm only joining for the satchel and i end up in groups that kick the lowbies 20 times and i'm not going to get the satchel anymore which means i leave. Is there anything to do about it to not lose the satchel to the group members who go on a kicking spree?

[mihai25]

MindBreaker wrote:

Ar fi o idee daca ati schimba creditul la quest astfel: 10x dungeons normale 5x dungeons heroice De ce? Deoarece heroicele acuma nu prea mai sunt populate. Am patit azi sa intre lumea in heroica, realiza ca e hc si iesea. Dar daca faceti treaba asta sa impartiti si dungeons astfel incat atunci cand faci cele 5 heroice, daca ai low gear sa dai join pentru random cataclysm heroic(unde sa fie doar cele de 4.0.6), daca esti mai geared sa dai random hour of twilight heroic(unde sa fie doar cele de 4.3). Din 10 dungeons normale plus iteme din AH/World Drop/DS-FL Trash ar trebui sa ai gearul necesar sa faci 4.0.6 heroics.

Cum nu sunt populate? Se fac destule dungeons prin solo que odata cu crossfaction, timpul de asteptare este rezonabil si numarul de premade a scazut considerabil. Odata cu merge-ul o sa scada si mai mult timpul de asteptare.
Ce mai trebuie facut sunt restrictiile @ kick. Si odata cu merge-ul sa se separe que pt 4.0.6 dungeons de 4.3 si sa se pune limitele de ilvl corecte - dar poate avea efecte negative asupra timpului de asteptare momentan cred ca va ramane asa. Nu trebuies alte quest & shit, asta e de ajuns. Ce spui tu cu atatea questuri deja devine o metoda de gear up. Questul actual doar tu ajuta in procesul de gear up (deja iti da 2 iteme bag-ul), asta e scopul lui. Cred ca procesul de gear up in momentul de fata este cu mult simplificat fata de cat era acu 3-4 luni.

[starfoxi19]

Pacat ca nu se mai poate face duplicate.
Tocmai mi-a cazut head din raid finder bag..si am head de raid finder! :c

[MindBreaker]

S-a schimbat questul? Nu se mai completeaza la normale.


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[AlesianDuke]

MindBreaker wrote:

S-a schimbat questul? Nu se mai completeaza la normale.

Da, dupa cum poti vedea: http://forum.wow-freakz.com/DUPLICATE-Endless-queue-t309872-15.html