[5.4.8] Elemental Shaman Discussion

[Orga]

Elemental Shaman Discussion

Here you can talk about anything related to Elemental Shaman in patch 5.4.8.

[Helena]

- Ce talente preferati si de ce?

-Which talents do you like and why?

https://www.freakz.ro/forum/RO-Shaman-Elemental-5.4.8-PvE-Guide-t395168.html

[Magicqtz]

Helena wrote:

Ce talente preferati si de ce?

-Depinde la ce latura te referi, PvP sau PvE?

- It depends , are you talking about PvE or PvP?

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/sylvanas/mostfckedup

[Orga]

Let me know if i should keep posts bilingual like this or just leave them as they are , your feedback is appreciated.

On:

- Tier 1

• PvE : Both Nature's Guardian and Astral Shift are good talents , depending on the fight you will have to switch between them.
  
• PvP : Astral Shift is the best option right now to avoid huge burst ( since we have low resilience right now ) .

- Tier 2

• PvE : Windwalk Totem would be the best but unfortunately it is bugged at the moment so you can still use Frozen Power for single target or switch to earthgrab for AoE situations.
  
• PvP : Most people will go with Windwalk over Earthgrab for the utility depending on the comp you face for 3v3 , for 2v2 and fun duels i guess everyone rolls with frozen power nowadays.

- Tier 3

• PvE : Totem projection is good to move your totems easly ( for example a tank moves the boss / trash and you need to put a totem again with this talent you wont loose the GCD.) but unfortunately again it is bugged right now so the only viable option is call of the elements
  
• PvP : Call of the Elements right now for the double Earthgrab / Windwalk

- Tier 4
Well i havent tested elemental since MoP release so i will leave to leave this empty for now ( Maybe someone with more experience can give his opinion about this tier , dont wanna spread wrong knowledge. )

• PvE : Everything is sort of viable and situational.
  
• PvP : I recomment Echo of the Elements but yet again all of them are viable

- Tier 5

• PvE : Ancestral Guidance all the way , being able to heal up while dealing damage is one of the most amazing things i have seen ( Heals your self and other people in the raid / party without having to loose Dps , also heals for TONS in AoE situations.)
  
• PvP : Again Ancestral Guidance , being able to heal your self while dealing damage and might even be able to save up your partner if he is being stunlocked and cannot heal himself is just damn awesome.

- Tier 6
Same as Tier 4.

• PvE : Elemental Blast and Unleashed Fury are both viable , just avoid Primal Elementalist because it is bugged right now
  
• PvP : Elemental Blast and Unleashed Fury are both viable , just avoid Primal Elementalist because it is bugged right now

[Helena]

Magicqtz wrote:

Helena wrote: Ce talente preferati si de ce? -Depinde la ce latura te referi, PvP sau PvE? - It depends , are you talking about PvE or PvP?

-amandoua
-both

@Orga For PvP I have Tier 1 : Nature's Guardian / Tier 2 : Windwalk Totem / Tier 3 : Call of the Elements / Tier 4 : Echo of the Elements ( I just find this talent good for me now ) / Tier 5 : Rushing Streams / Tier 6 : Elemental Blast

For PvE I have Totemic Projection on Tier 3 and on Tier 4 I have Elemental Mastery

Thank you for your info.I'll change my spec and see how it works

https://www.freakz.ro/forum/RO-Shaman-Elemental-5.4.8-PvE-Guide-t395168.html

[Orga]

Hello , i will give my opinion again only for PvP

• Tier 1 : Astral Shift vs Nature's Guardian depends on who you face , if they are a bursty class use shift .
  
• Tier 2 : Get Earthgrab Totem or Frozen Power untill Windwalk Totem gets fixed. ( Again aoe root vs Single target , situational)
  
• Tier 3 : Call of the Elements is your only choice right now anyways , both Totemic Persistence and Totemic Projection are not working currently
  
• Tier 4 : I kinda agree that echo of the elements is good right now , the chance to get double healing is just very nice , other than that Elemental Mastery is still very viable for burst.
  
• Tier 5 : I highly recommend you avoiding rushing streams or conductivity ( kinda bugged right now and never were great talents) go with Ancestral Guidance , pop it as a counter burst to heal while still doing damage but avoid using it on a warior which used shield wall for example ( Warrior pops burst cds --> you can pop Shamanistic Rage + Ancestral Guidance + Ascendance and counter his burst by doing damage and healing up at the same time )
  
• Tier 6 : Elemental Blast is kinda the best right now yup , Unleashed Fury is also viable ( the utility for most of those effects is quite good )
  

Anyways let me know if changing your spec overall was useful !

[Helena]

I will change it tonight when I'll do premades and let u know how it works ! Thank you !

https://www.freakz.ro/forum/RO-Shaman-Elemental-5.4.8-PvE-Guide-t395168.html

[beasthuntres]

PvE standard build:

• T1:Astral shift
  
• T2:Windwalk or Earthgrab (fight dependant)
  
• T3:Totemic projection(currently bugged on freakz)(call of the elements is only one working)
  
• T4:Echo of the Elements
  
• T5:Ancestral Guidance
  
• T6:Elemental Blast

This is a "standard build" aka one most commonly used ,but you can tweak it to adapt to your playstyle more.

You can get more info about PvE elemental here

[Calarasu]

Best choice is :
T1 - Astral Shift
T2 -Earthgrab Totem (Optional)
T3 - Totemic Persistence
T4 - Ancestral Swiftness
T5 - Ancestral Guidance
T6 - Unleashed Fury ( since Elemental Blast gives you a random buff and Lava Burst still bugged) , atm on Freakz your main in Lighting bolt , because hit is bugged and missing an Elemental Blast is not so fun.



Or you can pick both at the same time , if you can before getting banned.

[Helena]

I know the "problem" about Tier 6 . Let's just forget the 2nd opinion . I just want to try different ways to achieve that op elemental shamy , I know there are many things that aren't fixed yet but I'll wait

Thank you everyone for your opinions,I'll try them out and come back to tell you how it works

https://www.freakz.ro/forum/RO-Shaman-Elemental-5.4.8-PvE-Guide-t395168.html

[Orga]

Please dont post exploits here , just report them to @Shocker @Rageless @Pirinush ( there is even rewards for reporting exploits at the moment ).

Anyways seen plenty of people with that bug , dont think it affects only tier 6 aswell might want to do something about it soon ( no idea how it works )

[Calarasu]

@Helena
Now the things is easy , see first which work , and see what doesnt and then you can see what you will pick from the tree.

[Helena]

Calarasu wrote:

@Helena Now the things is easy , see first which work , and see what doesnt and then you can see what you will pick from the tree.

I don't do easy I tried to "test" them when MoP was up , I still try to test everything I can... I need to choose talents that fit my play-style and work at the same time . The problem is I don't have enough time atm . Like I said before, I'll come back with some feedbacks and let you all know how it works

https://www.freakz.ro/forum/RO-Shaman-Elemental-5.4.8-PvE-Guide-t395168.html

[Helena]

Here is a little tip for you . For example :

Quote:

/castsequence Searing Totem, Grounding Totem, Earthbind Totem, Healing Stream Totem

You just need to write the names of the totems you are using

I don't know if you all use this but for those who aren't I hope u find this easy ( u need to press that "bind" four times to have ur totems down btw )

https://www.freakz.ro/forum/RO-Shaman-Elemental-5.4.8-PvE-Guide-t395168.html

[Orga]

Seems like a usefull macro but is it really a smart idea to pop totems just like that at the start ( well at least grounding )