[5.4.8]Windwalker Monk Discussion

[Erudax]

Touch of Death cannot be used on Raid Bosses unfortunately. It is a known bug.
You can still use it on Protectors of the Endless, since they're labeled as Elites and not Bosses.

[Orga]

pls i have question wat is better 2hander or x2 1 hander

[Lik]

for ww what race is good? orc or pandarian? in pve

[Erudax]

@Orga Depends on what weapons you have. 2H (As far as I know) pulled slightly above DW.
@Lik If you die as a Pandaren, your racial is basically useless. Orc on the other hand, is a fool-proof choice.

[Anesthetic]

Orga wrote:

pls i have question wat is better 2hander or x2 1 hander

Dualwield is better. Rotation seems smoother and damage output is about 10-15% higher than using a 2h weapon.

[Anesthetic]

Just spent 500 valor points upgrading my stave and went to test this in a raid environment, precisely on Oondasta.

Here's recount with iLvL 530 stave equipped:

Spoiler:

And here's a recount with iLvL 530 main hand and 504 iLvL offhand weapon equipped:

Spoiler:

I must note, i had to interrupt my Fist of Fury channel time right at the start of the fight, when i was using 1h weapons because everything aliened perfectly for my Xuen, so i lost a bit of damage there.

As you can see, difference in DPS is around 2k damage towards 2h weapon, but considering my offhand weapon is almost 30 iLvL's lower, than stave and main hand, i personally think that with proper OH weapon, dualwielding would blow up 2h by considerable amount.


Will provide more info once i get one more iLvL 530 weapon (no luck having it drop )


Edit: Forgot to note that both of these tests are with same gear and same, max haste build. Too lazy to test the crit one for 2h but i don't like it that much since, like i said above, rotation is awkward and there's too much downtime.

[Anesthetic]

Ok guys, i've tried playing WW in Pve. I was playing it during 1st phase, i was doing terrible damage but i kept playing it because i had a hope WW monks will once be viable and that happened recently, during 2nd stage....
I was having so much fun blowing up other classes in recounts and it felt great successfully playing a class that no one plays and beat other "facerollers" but now, after so many "fixes" of WW monks, i am not enjoying playing this spec anymore.

I am not aware what got fixed recently, but in a raid i just did, i couldn't even pass 140k DPS on a fights, i used to pull 200k+ DPS just last week and this was a last straw for me. I wish all luck to people who decide or continue playing this spec, but i am not doing it anymore.

Thank you all for reading and wish you all the luck of this world if you decide that.

[drunkenpsykoo]

How Sad. As i can see , no one is interested to play Windwalker Monk actively.

Monk's DPS is fairly Balanced compared to another Classes which has its own Strengths. After mastering the Class i can say, that WW Monk is able to pump a good amount of DPS in Raids, when u use Cooldowns and Brew properly

In Carnage i bloom, like a flower in the Dawn.

[darkwavecze]

drunkenpsykoo wrote:

How Sad. As i can see , no one is interested to play Windwalker Monk actively.

I do

WW Monks seems to need more understanding of the class, but they are viable and can do competitive dps.

Anyways, any WW Monk that has Storm, Fire and Earth tracker which is working?

[PaC.]

drunkenpsykoo wrote:

How Sad. As i can see , no one is interested to play Windwalker Monk actively.

Most people get discouraged because they see it as something new. I personally used to avoid making a Monk because I was too lazy learning all the spells, after a while I changed my mind and I don't regret it. Monks are awesome, especially if you know how to play it.

[Jijing]

When it comes to dmg monk is doing fine, what he lack is raid utility. Considering that melee is worse then ranged in raid there is little reason to bring monk if you have lets say warr. Monk also needs a bit more gear to do some dps.

[Supmark]

Monks/Dks shines over wars in 1 fight - juggernaut. They're better soakers then warriors. Monk can karma 2 mines = 1 wave of mines in p1 cleared (1 mine exploasion is fine during p1) And they can zen med 1-2 mines if mines are really close to each other (take mine - mines -> zen med since the knockback happens after few s of taking mine) And in terms of dps i'd argue monk is not really that behind warrior (exluding donated characters). Also on galakras they can reset their stacks just by using karma.

[Evydence]

The problem with melle being worse then range is due to the fact that in Soo are a lot of mechanics that require to move from the boss, and if you move from boss as a melle you lose dps, but for the moment almost all melle classes are good for raids, you only need to know you class good, to know what you can do with your abil. in all encounters, and monks dps are doing very well now, they have a lot of mobility, burst dmg and that karma it's verry usefull if you know when to use it.




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