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[Warrior][Arms] Sweeping Strikes vs Strikes of Opportunity

 
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Post Posted: 31-08-2016, 18:07:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: Sweeping Strikes, Strikes of Opportunity


Bug description: Reopening the bug report made by Scott here: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Warrior-Arms-Sweeping-Strikes-doesn-t-proc-Strikes-of-Opportunity-t433281.html
As we all know this fix caused a server crash so it had to be reverted and sweeping strikes was temporarily disabled.

At first I thought that the bug report was actually invalid, but after some research seems like Scott was actually right. Only thing I have to add is that the Strikes of Opportunity should have a 0.1 ICD, I'm guessing this should fix the server crash problem -


Proof: Won't bring more proof for SS and SoO interaction, i believe the initial bug report is enough.
For the ICD part:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8087999196?page=16#post-315

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The ICD is 0.1 seconds, you can find it in game data or test it in game.

http://gyazo.com/ac727ac3787f0df6b46ef8cbd59b543f%5B...]
The ICD on OS is set at 0.1 on simcraft as well.

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The latest simcraft models sweeping strikes semi-properly. (Aka, proc into eternity.) You can also prove the value of mastery by using some integration, but the TLDR of it is that it's worth 15-18 dps per point on 2+ targets.

Mastery stat value with 2 targets + sweeping strikes acts very similarly to armor penetration, as in it increases in value the more you have.

Example:
http://gyazo.com/f30189dcbdbf7b4f982e6c7a151d7557
X is the amount of times it chain procs, y is the current mastery rating.

Somewhere around 20000~ (73%) rating the value of mastery will skyrocket if there are no limitations to SS/OS interaction.

However, there are small limitations in place, as OS can only proc every 0.1~ seconds, and if you break contact with the chain, it ends immediately.


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Post Posted: 31-08-2016, 19:17:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yes, for sure It should proc from sweeping strikes, I can also bring one more proof:

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-e5m5m79gx7c4mvpu/details/7/?s=3142&&e=3644

It is on third place as damage dealer (more than sweeping strikes itself) with almost 600 hits, it is impossible to get so many hits if it doesn't proc from sweeping strikes

About the icd... I think it already has one because if not it would proc from itself, or maybe it is made to not proc from itself and it has no icd Thinking

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Post Posted: 01-09-2016, 20:29:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

More proof:


us-battle.net: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8087999196?page=16
"the Sweeping Strikes attack in itself can proc Strikes of Opportunity, and in turn, that SoO causes its OWN Sweeping Strikes. This causes a chain of SoO and Sweeping Strikes until SoO stops proccing from a Sweeping Strikes. So hence, the more Mastery you have, the more Sweeping Strikes you'll net, as well."

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/10588209171
"In other words, you hit your main target and Sweeping Strikes triggers. This hits the second target, triggering Strikes of Opportunity. This SoO proc triggers Sweeping Strikes again, hitting another target (the first one again if you only have 2 targets). And the cycle continues until Sweeping Strikes expires or SoO doesn't proc. It's why Mastery is such a powerful stat for multi-target Arms, even beating out Crit when there's as few as 2 targets."

icy-veins.com: http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/1843-54-arms-warrior-the-other-dps-spec-a-guide/
"The way things are looking this tier with most people going Fury single target and arms for AoE; Mastery pulls ahead because the extra swings from your mastery proc can proc off the damage done with sweeping strikes up and vice versa."

mmo-champion.com: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1340569-5-4-Guide-Arms-PVE
"Strikes of Opportunity can proc off of almost any ability, to include most special attacks and trinkets. Because of this there is an interesting mechanic between Strikes of Opportunity and Sweeping Strikes. Strikes of Opportunity will proc a Sweeping Strike cleave, which in turn can proc a Strike of Opportunity, continuing to chain from there. This chain will continue until one or the other fails to proc."

Really important bug.



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