[Shaman][Elemental] Legendary Caster Cloak vs Echo of the Elements v2

[blackmagikz]

WoW Freakz spell link: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Shaman-Elemental-Legendary-Caster-Cloak-vs-Echo-of-the-Elements-t428008.html
Bug description: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Shaman-Elemental-Legendary-Caster-Cloak-vs-Echo-of-the-Elements-t428008.html
Proof: citeste tooltipul nu ai fixat nimic corect , echo face copy paste la orice spell.....asta include si cloak cum adica sa nu mai procuie echo din legendara? wtf nu confunda mastery cu echo of the elements sunt 2 chestii diferite .

''When one of your spells causes direct damage or healing, you have a chance to gain Echo of the Elements, duplicating that spell's effect.'' asta e tooltipul

@ nexflame

[Erudax]

I've edited the topic name.
Also I gotta ask for solid proof here: as far as I know Echo is not supposed to copy ANY spell effect, it is limited to Shaman-class spells. For example, Echo can duplicate the damage you deal with Matter Swap in the Dark Animus encounter. That's obviously wrong.

[blackmagikz]

Erudax wrote:

I've edited the topic name. Also I gotta ask for solid proof here: as far as I know Echo is not supposed to copy ANY spell effect, it is limited to Shaman-class spells. For example, Echo can duplicate the damage you deal with Matter Swap in the Dark Animus encounter. That's obviously wrong.

here is your proof : http://www.mmo-game.eu/first-look-at-enhancement-mop-beta/ here you can find that echo of the elements that procs from Iceblast, Flameblast (Nokaled) http://www.wowhead.com/item=78481/nokaled-the-elements-of-death
the same thing must be applied to legendary cloak. so yeah this fix is wrong , maybe pay more attention when u fix something , the tooltip is clear enough for me .

[blackmagikz]

eruxdax nexflame ? aloo imi repara si mie cineva back cumparat si no procuie din echo pe elemental??????????????????????

[Erudax]

I do understand your frustration, but there is nothing we can do unless you bring solid, actual MOP (not Beta) proof that Echo should have a chance of proccing from any spell, including those that do not belong to your class.
To be honest, it doesn't really make sense, if you were right and any sort of damage could procc Echo, just imagine it proccing on things such as Opportunistic Strike on Will of the Emperor hitting them for 2m damage. Let's not talk about Dark Animus, where the damage you dealt to the Matter Swapped player would instantly kill him if it would Echo.

[blackmagikz]

Erudax wrote:

I do understand your frustration, but there is nothing we can do unless you bring solid, actual MOP (not Beta) proof that Echo should have a chance of proccing from any spell, including those that do not belong to your class. To be honest, it doesn't really make sense, if you were right and any sort of damage could procc Echo, just imagine it proccing on things such as Opportunistic Strike on Will of the Emperor hitting them for 2m damage. Let's not talk about Dark Animus, where the damage you dealt to the Matter Swapped player would instantly kill him if it would Echo.

lets be clear about something @ i know for sure from my expirience that the legendary back procced from echo , and procced only from shaman's spells / items equiped by the shaman , didn't procced from temporary abilities gained from the boss encounters, but if freakz wanna go custom and no blizzlike let shaman like it is now , it didn't change from beta to alpha , also all my bug reports were 99% accurate so why should i lie here? let's be serious , i buyed the item and i expect to see it working as it should .

i won't post any other proof as i provided 1 and also the tooltip is pretty clear.

[norbert.pls]

the cloak already works as an overload/echo type of spell, exactly as multistrike, which does not get copied by echo and/or overload either. in theory they both work the same way, which is that there is a chance for your spells to trigger that certain item. moreover, the dmg ability from yulon is not a shaman spell, neither is multistrike.

also you just contradicted yourself, you mentioned the tooltip of echo which clearly states a spell that gets copied, and to no extent an "item equipped by the shaman", i've used Rainbow Generator plenty of times and it never procced my echo, not even once



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[blackmagikz]

norbert.pls wrote:

the cloak already works as an overload/echo type of spell, exactly as multistrike, which does not get copied by echo and/or overload either. in theory they both work the same way, which is that there is a chance for your spells to trigger that certain item. moreover, the dmg ability from yulon is not a shaman spell, neither is multistrike. also you just contradicted yourself, you mentioned the tooltip of echo which clearly states a spell that gets copied, and to no extent an "item equipped by the shaman", i've used Rainbow Generator plenty of times and it never procced my echo, not even once

pentru tine o sa postez in romana, nu te mai baga in bug reports facute de mine daca nu stii mai nimic despre shaman, 2 citeste aici ce copiaza pe enha in beta echo acelasi lucru face si pe elemental http://www.mmo-game.eu/first-look-at-enhancement-mop-beta/
citat ''ECHO OF THE ELEMENTS
This is what I have seen Echo of the Elements proc

Lightning Bolt
Chain Lightning
Lava Burst
Flame Shock
Earth Shock
Frost Shock
Fire Nova
Iceblast, Flameblast (Nokaled) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<citeste aici , ti se pare ca e spellul shamanului? care e diferenta intre legendary cloak/ si arma 1 hand? si nu ma refer la faptul ca se echipeaza in sloturi diferite sau cau unu are culoare mov si unu portocaliu sau diferenta de ilvl, ma refer la ce fac amandoua itemele.
daca tu imi gasesti ce e diferit intre itemele astea 2 poti sa mai postezi , daca nu abtinete.

 

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[norbert.pls]

No shade bro but it says beta. As long as you can't get real proof I see no point in even trying to argue the validity of your post. I get that you are frustrated, thinking you're 'a pro' while the reality is just against you, but being so self centered will help noone, especially solving a bug you can't prove is real. Not to mention the fact that echo has been modified 3 times since the initial version of it. So please take your time and look after it if you really think yourself that high up your horse with regards to... any of this. Btw use English.

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[blackmagikz]

norbert.pls wrote:

No shade bro but it says beta. As long as you can't get real proof I see no point in even trying to argue the validity of your post. I get that you are frustrated, thinking you're 'a pro' while the reality is just against you, but being so self centered will help noone, especially solving a bug you can't prove is real. Not to mention the fact that echo has been modified 3 times since the initial version of it. So please take your time and look after it if you really think yourself that high up your horse with regards to... any of this. Btw use English.

tot ce am reportat a fost confirmat , ce tot ai impresia ca stii mai bine decat mine shaman? tu cate buguri confirmate ai a? 1/2 ? te rog nu mai posta ca esti deplasat si incerci sa flamezi ,

si hai sa iti zic si ce a fost confirmat , real ppm vs haste, echo of the elements vs mastery , bug reports la tiers confirmate si alte chestii , bineinteles la toate bug reports au venit wannabe shamans ca tine sa afirme ca nu e asa si pana la urma au luat-o in gura . vezi ca nu o sa gasesti nicaieri dovada impotriva la ce am reportat eu asa ca dispari cu afirmatia ta ca s-au facut de 3x modificari la echo , asa e dar nu au schimbat faptul ca echo procuia si din no kaled / legendara , si ca paranteza , cand vrei la orice ora vrei putem da un test dummy daca tot ai impresia ca esti mai bun ca mine ca si jucator de shaman.

btw nu o sa iti mai raspund la alt mesaj intrucat nu te consider jucator de shaman.

 

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[Burebysta]

Let's get one thing straight. We, since the server exists, have made fixes only with proof. Even for the bugs that are discussed within the Staff Members we don't trust our guts, but the actual proof.
As Erudax mentioned already

Quote:

I do understand your frustration, but there is nothing we can do unless you bring solid, actual MOP (not Beta) proof that Echo should have a chance of proccing from any spell, including those that do not belong to your class.

so please bring solid proof but in a new topic.

Considering your whole attitude on the forum (e.g. https://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-5302871.html) or the above posts (Keep calm and don't blow up your vein) you should really revise it if you want to have a longer life in our community.
P.S. How many bug reports did you even report if you have one Reject Topic, one Fixed Topic and this one? ...Double-account maybe? You know that's against the rules?
P.S.2. Pe romaneste: Inainte de a imi raspunde hai sa fim calmi si sa judecam. Refaci topic-ul frumos cu dovada si eviti a mai lua warn pe viitor.