[5.4.8] Protection Paladin Discussion

[Magnus06]

If it works like Immerseus's trinket then it should indeed.

[kaorri]

Magnus06 wrote:

If it works like Immerseus's trinket then it should indeed.

I can confirm it does work as intended.
Also reaching 21250 proved to be ratrher hard :/

[Magnus06]

A 2/2 heroic thunderforged Spark of Zandalar (that i look for in vain) helps a lot. Right now i'm no longer capped because i got Malkorok's trinket so i swapped out Primordius's trinket and lost 600 haste but it's worth.

[kaorri]

Magnus06 wrote:

A 2/2 heroic thunderforged Spark of Zandalar (that i look for in vain) helps a lot. Right now i'm no longer capped because i got Malkorok's trinket so i swapped out Primordius's trinket and lost 600 haste but it's worth.

I've got the normal warforged version, and its lovely however it seems that the proc rate is a bit low, if you follow the official sources, especially considering that I drop down to 1.3/4 attack speed in raids and I'm at the haste cap(a bit over currently).

- Spark of Zandalar - 5.50 RealPPM on landing harmful abilities and spells, and melee/ranged abilities and swings. No ICD.

We increased the proc rate of the following trinkets by 10%:
• Renataki’s Soul Charm
• Talisman of Bloodlust
• Bad Juju
• Rune of Re-Origination
• Fabled Feather of Ji-Kun
• Primordius’ Talisman of Rage
• Spark of Zandalar
• Gaze of the Twins

Sources:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7811342046?page=79#1561
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8197741003

Real PPM (RPPM) description:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6893549789#1

Thoughts?

[Magnus06]

Maybe the badluck system isn't applied for normal thunderforged trinkets, i don't feel like my Spark has a low procrate that's why i'm speculating this especially since they scripted RPPM way before enabling thunderforged system but heroic thunderforged since they were in donation shop could be unaffected.

Atm i think it takes at absolute worst 15s to get 1 stack out the 10 needed to transform but sometimes i just get 3-4 stack in quick succession so yeah it takes like 20-30s to transform.

[Magnus06]

Hi,

Is anybody having difficulties using Ardent Defender ? I don't really feel like the "revive" component is working properly because i instantly die msot of the time so i kinda started to use it as a spare DP ever since i started noticing it.

[Supmark]

It is working but its bugged like purgatory when used on malkorok, 15% heal goes into antient miasma absorb and u're left with 0 hp. Other than that it works properly.

[Magnus06]

Never had trouble with it on Heroic Juggernaut ? Even with already existing hots and prep'd holy power to refill my health it was dying almost instantly and when checking the combat log i see a mediocre heal from it like 66k heal from it.

[Supmark]

Well you kinda can't use it on IJ efficiently since you have too many times of small attacks which can kill u afterwards you should be treating it as a i'm gonna prevent 1shot button. So for example norushen 20th+ stack or Harroms 6th stack with bloodlust or execute on nazgrim.

[Magnus06]

I'll turn MSBT back on to have real time combat log and i'll find out, thank you. Right now it's not that big of a deal with Unbreakable spirit + Vial of corruption but something still feels off about it.

[kaorri]

I've had no issues with it, however you have to consider its a 1 time only save. As you mentioned Jugger- it will save you from the ignite dot, but the pulse/drill/bomb right after will take you down.
You can defo have some fun with it as well since Veng got some-what fixed you can use it to soak in a one-shot and bump up your veng.

Edit: I've found it very useful to spec in to Clemency and use protection on a mele to soak the bombs. (Get your hpally to do it as well and you can pretty much completely negate the damage.